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	<title>Comments on: Why the iPhone is not wanted in Japan</title>
	<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/</link>
	<description>From kimono to keitai; research Japanese facts and figures through translated opinion polls and surveys.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Peter James</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-120695</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-120695</guid>
		<description>With the exception of a great screen the iPhone is a poor product. It is difficult to type messages, you cant exchange details like with other Japanese phones and calls often cut out.

I spoke to  Softbank workerd who said customers have after buying an iPhone returned to try and get there money back. They regret buying the thing. Unfortunately they are locked into a 2 year deal and cant get out of it.

Buyer beware, check it out with people who have bought one, dont buy and then regret the day you did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the exception of a great screen the iPhone is a poor product. It is difficult to type messages, you cant exchange details like with other Japanese phones and calls often cut out.</p>
<p>I spoke to  Softbank workerd who said customers have after buying an iPhone returned to try and get there money back. They regret buying the thing. Unfortunately they are locked into a 2 year deal and cant get out of it.</p>
<p>Buyer beware, check it out with people who have bought one, dont buy and then regret the day you did</p>
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		<title>By: Nevin</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-116933</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-116933</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97647" rel="nofollow"&gt;
Waiting for Mork from Ork to come back and eat some humble pie:&lt;/a&gt;


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143317323034023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97647" rel="nofollow"><br />
Waiting for Mork from Ork to come back and eat some humble pie:</a></p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143317323034023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122143317323034023.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</a></p>
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		<title>By: helical</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-100656</link>
		<dc:creator>helical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-100656</guid>
		<description>Aren’t they the very ones who go crazy after stupid things like mugen puchi puchi?

Dude Mook, I think you just crossed the line right there ;)

.... but on a more serious note, for the most part, I do agree that firmware design and user interfaces leave much to be desired on Japanese products. There are countless tales of programmers regularly facing insane schedule "Death Marches" for programming cell phone software, and most readily admit the coding is crap. And I also agree that the fonts and such maybe not the best it could be. But then again, in terms of aesthetics, I may have grown fond of the utilitarian non-antialiased ugliness prevalent in Japanese consumer electrocnics... (yes, I'm the jerk that changed all the Windows interfaces to the Classic theme and confused everyone else in the office).

I think the "Not from a Japanese company" is rather low, but that may be because people have already accepted the iPod, and it may be that people share my impression that despite the hype, the iPhone is just an iPod with a fancy touch screen that you happen to be able to talk to your friends on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aren’t they the very ones who go crazy after stupid things like mugen puchi puchi?</p>
<p>Dude Mook, I think you just crossed the line right there <img src='http://whatjapanthinks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230;. but on a more serious note, for the most part, I do agree that firmware design and user interfaces leave much to be desired on Japanese products. There are countless tales of programmers regularly facing insane schedule &#8220;Death Marches&#8221; for programming cell phone software, and most readily admit the coding is crap. And I also agree that the fonts and such maybe not the best it could be. But then again, in terms of aesthetics, I may have grown fond of the utilitarian non-antialiased ugliness prevalent in Japanese consumer electrocnics&#8230; (yes, I&#8217;m the jerk that changed all the Windows interfaces to the Classic theme and confused everyone else in the office).</p>
<p>I think the &#8220;Not from a Japanese company&#8221; is rather low, but that may be because people have already accepted the iPod, and it may be that people share my impression that despite the hype, the iPhone is just an iPod with a fancy touch screen that you happen to be able to talk to your friends on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ash Kay</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99285</link>
		<dc:creator>Ash Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99285</guid>
		<description>Never underestimate the power of fads in Japan.  Our small and local Softbank store disclosed that they were given 10 iPhones.  All were sold out the night before by way of vouchers.  if one store was given 10 phones and there are over 2000 stores, it should give an implied indication of the amount of phones sold in that one day.

I'm actually surprised by the number of "Not from a Japanese company 4.9% 5.1% 4.6%".  I suspected it would be higher.  But then again, in my time living here, I've learned that most Japanese rarely tell you what they are really thinking.   While food products are highly distrusted when from China, I've observed a greater prejudice toward Korean electronics like Samsung.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never underestimate the power of fads in Japan.  Our small and local Softbank store disclosed that they were given 10 iPhones.  All were sold out the night before by way of vouchers.  if one store was given 10 phones and there are over 2000 stores, it should give an implied indication of the amount of phones sold in that one day.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually surprised by the number of &#8220;Not from a Japanese company 4.9% 5.1% 4.6%&#8221;.  I suspected it would be higher.  But then again, in my time living here, I&#8217;ve learned that most Japanese rarely tell you what they are really thinking.   While food products are highly distrusted when from China, I&#8217;ve observed a greater prejudice toward Korean electronics like Samsung.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Y-N</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99167</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Y-N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99167</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the info Ken, even though I can't read the Nikkei articles due to no subscription!

Can you find out what the average number of sales for a summer Friday might be, so you can extrapolate that to estimate iPhone shipments?

Without more info about survey method, etc, I'd be slightly wary about these figures for 50% of all sales, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Ken, even though I can&#8217;t read the Nikkei articles due to no subscription!</p>
<p>Can you find out what the average number of sales for a summer Friday might be, so you can extrapolate that to estimate iPhone shipments?</p>
<p>Without more info about survey method, etc, I&#8217;d be slightly wary about these figures for 50% of all sales, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99127</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-99127</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;iPhone Dominates Japan's Cell Phone Market On Release&lt;/strong&gt;

http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D14JFA22.htm

Some interesting numbers. 40% of handset sales at electronic retailers in Japan were accounted for by iPhone sales on the day of release. But 50% of total sales of all handsets that day were at Softbank shops.

&lt;strong&gt;Japan Handset Makers Seek To Survive iPhone Shock&lt;/strong&gt;

http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D12HH661.htm

Gist: Japan's handset makers, unable to compete overseas against Nokia et al, are in for rough times. Mitsubishi and Sanyo are already out - now the question is just who's next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>iPhone Dominates Japan&#8217;s Cell Phone Market On Release</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D14JFA22.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D14JFA22.htm</a></p>
<p>Some interesting numbers. 40% of handset sales at electronic retailers in Japan were accounted for by iPhone sales on the day of release. But 50% of total sales of all handsets that day were at Softbank shops.</p>
<p><strong>Japan Handset Makers Seek To Survive iPhone Shock</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D12HH661.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nni.nikkei.co.jp/AC/TNKS/Nni20080714D12HH661.htm</a></p>
<p>Gist: Japan&#8217;s handset makers, unable to compete overseas against Nokia et al, are in for rough times. Mitsubishi and Sanyo are already out - now the question is just who&#8217;s next?</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-98476</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-98476</guid>
		<description>50 at each SoftBank shop would not add up to much, but there were Bic and Yodobashi Camera locations in Tokyo reporting that they sold "about 1,000."

&lt;em&gt;I’m looking for more info regarding a Japanese article that said that on the White Plan email is not free.&lt;/em&gt;

That was the impression I got from the pricing plans on their website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50 at each SoftBank shop would not add up to much, but there were Bic and Yodobashi Camera locations in Tokyo reporting that they sold &#8220;about 1,000.&#8221;</p>
<p><em>I’m looking for more info regarding a Japanese article that said that on the White Plan email is not free.</em></p>
<p>That was the impression I got from the pricing plans on their website.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Y-N</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-98089</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Y-N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-98089</guid>
		<description>Ken, yes, I remember with the PS3 (or some other console) when they released in the US they kept the numbers down so they could get the "sold out" coverage too. It says a random shop got 50 handsets, so could we surmise an average of 50 for each - how many SoftBank shops are there in Japan anyway?

I'm looking for more info regarding a Japanese article that said that on the White Plan email is not free. If that's true, and given that it polls the server regularly, some people are in for a shock next month, I think.

Saw the new ad on the telly and it's useless, BTW. Oh, and that j-cast translation is hideous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, yes, I remember with the PS3 (or some other console) when they released in the US they kept the numbers down so they could get the &#8220;sold out&#8221; coverage too. It says a random shop got 50 handsets, so could we surmise an average of 50 for each - how many SoftBank shops are there in Japan anyway?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for more info regarding a Japanese article that said that on the White Plan email is not free. If that&#8217;s true, and given that it polls the server regularly, some people are in for a shock next month, I think.</p>
<p>Saw the new ad on the telly and it&#8217;s useless, BTW. Oh, and that j-cast translation is hideous!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97932</guid>
		<description>Mork has some excellent points.

Ken, word is that Apple and Softbank are not saying how many were shipped to Japan. They are keeping the number under wraps for now. 

Speculation is that they are looking for articles just like this to appear:
http://en.j-cast.com/2008/07/11023424.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mork has some excellent points.</p>
<p>Ken, word is that Apple and Softbank are not saying how many were shipped to Japan. They are keeping the number under wraps for now. </p>
<p>Speculation is that they are looking for articles just like this to appear:<br />
<a href="http://en.j-cast.com/2008/07/11023424.html" rel="nofollow">http://en.j-cast.com/2008/07/11023424.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nevin</title>
		<link>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97650</link>
		<dc:creator>Nevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://whatjapanthinks.com/2008/07/10/why-the-iphone-is-not-wanted-in-japan/#comment-97650</guid>
		<description>Mork, you make some really great (and really technical) points that I can't argue with:

&lt;i&gt;The code on most Japanese made digital cameras and video cameras with touchscreens are pure crap as well because they are all developed with the same Japanese engineering mind which has little to do usability...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;If Japanese written firmware was so superior, why haven’t they been able to create better code and interfaces for their consumer electronic devices and phones? All you see are some ugly looking and convoluted pieces of code that don’t do the hardware features justice.&lt;/i&gt;

The same thought was flashing through my (clueless... Heh) brain (although I am not so sure I would be as quick to categorize the 'Japanese engineering mind') when I pushed 'submit comment', because the interface on most Japanese consumer electronics (and I'm thinking of Sony's MD players and accompanying software in particular) are indeed terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mork, you make some really great (and really technical) points that I can&#8217;t argue with:</p>
<p><i>The code on most Japanese made digital cameras and video cameras with touchscreens are pure crap as well because they are all developed with the same Japanese engineering mind which has little to do usability&#8230;</i><i>If Japanese written firmware was so superior, why haven’t they been able to create better code and interfaces for their consumer electronic devices and phones? All you see are some ugly looking and convoluted pieces of code that don’t do the hardware features justice.</i></p>
<p>The same thought was flashing through my (clueless&#8230; Heh) brain (although I am not so sure I would be as quick to categorize the &#8216;Japanese engineering mind&#8217;) when I pushed &#8217;submit comment&#8217;, because the interface on most Japanese consumer electronics (and I&#8217;m thinking of Sony&#8217;s MD players and accompanying software in particular) are indeed terrible.</p>
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