Japanese women dream of the USA
DIMSDRIVE performed internet-based research involving 5,274 people in September of last year to find out which country’s citizens would people most want to marry. It is not stated whether or not the people interviewed were single or not.
The Asia versus the West split is quite noticeable in the men, but really striking amongst the women. I previously translated statistics regarding international marriages in Japan that shows that the ideals being expressed here do not seem to be realised.
On a slight tangent, I watched the last episode of an NHK English learning program which features an English-speaking Western blonde angel that prods a clueless office worker along the path to success at her job getting a date with her transferred from New York colleague, the ideal tall, muscular, tanned, well-coiffured white executive. The angel’s job was done because the glaikit Misaki finally pulled her man.
Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (Sample size=5,274, free answer)
Rank Votes 1 USA 1,144 2 Korea 505 3 UK 442 4 Italy 370 5 France 344 6 Australia 218 7 Germany 203 8 China 197 9 Canada 150 10 Russia 120 Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (By sex, free answer)
Rank MaleN=2,468 Votes Rank FemaleN=2,806 Votes 1 USA 368 1 USA 776 2 Korea 297 2 UK 347 3 China 174 3 Italy 278 4 France 134 4 France 210 5 Russia 117 5 Korea 208 6 Thailand 99 6 Australia 145 7 UK 95 7 Germany 131 8 Italy 92 8 Canada 99 9= Taiwan 73 9 Switzerland 47 9= Australia 73 10 Spain 34 First, looking at the East-West split - or more accurately, perhaps, the caucasian-Asian split (I’m not aware of any black Western role-models in Japan) we see that for men, 36% of the total votes were for Western wives versus 26% for Asian women, favouring the West (I’m including Russia, with Maria Sharapova as the popular image of the country) by just over a third. However for women there is a marked difference; about 74% in total choose the West (over 40% for the USA alone) versus a mere 7.4% for the East, a massive ten to one vote for Europe and the USA.
Next, looking at the detailed age breakdown, it’s only in the teenage girls group that the USA fails to top the charts, losing out to France and Korea, and equal with the UK. For men in their twenties, American women are preferred over the second-placed Korean women by almost 60%, and the Chinese are back in fifth, gaining just over a third of the number of votes of the USA. However, the older men get, the stronger the charms of the Asian neighbours become, with the gap at its smallest being just a mere three votes. Similarly, for men in their forties and over, Chinese women cut the gap from a third to about a half of the USA score.
For women, as they get older (ignoring the over sixty bracket which has a very small sample size, so may be rather inaccurate) the attraction to American men only get stronger; in their twenties, Americans get just under a quarter of the vote, but by their fifties, it surpasses three in ten. Despite the charms of the disturbingly Harry Potter-like Bae Yong Joon Korean men do not seem to be particularly favoured by the middle-aged demographic.
These two main trends noted above are perhaps reflections on Japanese society as much as on foreign stereotypes. The younger men hold images of themselves as charming the sophisticated Western woman, but as they age (and visit dodgy hostess bars…) they come to realise that perhaps only Asian women could accept their typical Japanese behaviour. For women, after having been around Japanese men for many, many years, they too may come to realise that the Western stereotypes of politeness and chivalry are the only things that could satisty them in marriage.
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Lee said,
February 28, 2007 @ 07:31
Tupac will be as important as Shakespeare? Sounds like some scholars at Berkeley are also smoking crack.
Why not just judge Tupac on his own merits and try not to put him on par with the greatest literary figure of the western world.
For one thing Shakespeare did not use samples or other’s words in his writing. And he was not a one-trick pony. He wrote sonnets, dramas, comedies, history plays, etc. There are many, many phrases or sayings that people use everyday (including in songs) and don’t realize that it comes from something that Shakespeare wrote, because it is so intertwined in our language. Tupac’s corpus doesn’t come close to matching that. And will not get closer in the future. Because the current generation of rap fans have a habit of remembering and lauding only what is current or closest to their “heyday.” And the same I’m sure will be true of subsequent generations. For example, when Biggie Smalls was killed rap fans were saying he was the greatest of all time. The same was said of Tupac when killed. And now you hear how so many think that Eminem is the greatest rapper in history (said much more a couple of years ago). But so many of these fans don’t know of rappers from the past. You have to know the past before you can say someone is the greatest. Although not a representative sample, I’ve talked to many young rap fans who never heard of Kool G rap, never heard of Kool Herc, or Spoonnie G, have heard of Big Daddy Kane but never heard his records, never heard of Just Ice, never listened to EPMD. Well then, who are they comparing Biggie, Tupac and Eminem to? Answer: no one. Their evaluation is shallow, like much of rap music. It’s often the nature of youth.
The work of Tupac, Biggie, Dead Prez, KRS-1 and others can be used as sort of newspaper clippings to get a feel of the times (because newspapers are important to historical research) but they will not be remembered in 200 years as Shakespeare will be. Or as Louis Armstrong, Beethoven, Muddie Waters, Caruso, Duke Ellington, J Coltrane, Mozart, Nina Simone, Callas, or Count Basie will be.
That’s my prediction.
another random american said,
March 4, 2007 @ 14:28
a random american, Amen I agree with you 100%, There are many europeoan stereotypes I could get on mr Martin but I would be on your level and I refuse to lower myself to a status that Dung excells over..a random american, I salute you.
Silky said,
March 9, 2007 @ 15:30
Big in Japan…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-oEvrYTNpw
Ana said,
March 10, 2007 @ 10:08
I’m in love with Japanese guys and I’m currently learing how to speak Japanese. If or when I go over to Japan will I find someone to date being I am a foreigner and African-American? I know that Japanese guys tend to be shy and don’t say what they mean so do Japanese guys date African-American women?
ViolentAJ said,
March 10, 2007 @ 10:50
Michael Jackson is big in Japan because they think that he is White.
Japanese people like all races except for Blacks, this is a fact. Nobody likes Black people, but the japs hate us more than any other race. Only Blacks like Blacks, so those Blacks that like Japanese girls should give up. We are cursed to be forced to stick with our own kind, while all other races have social mobility.
Ana said,
March 10, 2007 @ 12:50
Blacks aren’t hated by Japanese people maybe by the older generation but the newer generation actually are tanning to become more darker and trying to wear their hair how we do, like in dreds. Being Black is like the “cool” thing to be/do
Snappy! said,
March 11, 2007 @ 10:32
The fact that this survey is in English means that a good portion of the general populace in Japan may not be responding to it. ergo, it is a lop-sided view of the Japanese population.
FraudWasteAbuse said,
March 11, 2007 @ 12:12
I’d be curious to know what makes Americans so desirable.
Ken Y-N said,
March 11, 2007 @ 14:19
Snappy!: The original survey was conducted in Japanese amongst ordinary members of the public, so it is not as lop-sided as you suggest.
Lee said,
March 12, 2007 @ 20:33
This article is highly questionable… its true author is also highly questionable.
It blatantly states that a white western women would not be attractive unless the asian male was naive.
It states that Japanese males would not be tolerated by white western women.
It states that Japanese women find white western men attractive bceauce of their manners. (wow, how false can this obersavation be, any of us living in america know perhaps the selfishest men are here).
I wonder who truly wrote this artticle. And what their motives are…
lezer said,
March 13, 2007 @ 17:35
Hi dear,
I am glad to come across you on the net. Also, it pleases me to read that you are looking for a friend.In the light of the above, I will not hesitate to welcome you into my fold. I am Miss. Lezer ben , single, an American by nationality.
Please l am indeed, looking forward to hearing from you, and learn a little more about you that is, if you are interested to be part of me. You should reach me through my e-mail id, lezerforlove@yahoo.com
MY regards to all your friends, and Have a blissful moment and do keep in touch!
Yours friendly ,
Lezer Ben,
Delboy said,
March 13, 2007 @ 22:48
I’m back.
Some of what Joshua said made sense but some of it I totally disagree with. The stuff he said about Asian women wanting financial security and a charming intelligent man that will be a good father isn’t really revolutionary and applies to women of all colours really.
I completely disagree that Asian women prefer Asian guys and a bit of your Asian bias in your thought process. No culture in the world seems to worship foreigners more than Far East Asians. People like Brad Pitt or David Beckham are bigger in Asia than they are in their own countries. To Asian girls foreigners are seen as more exotic than Asian guys so blond guys and black guys, to a lesser extent, are considered more attractive to Asian girls. It is kind of what happens everywhere. In Arabic South American and South European countries, men find blonde women more attractive because most of the women there have dark hair, in northern European places like Germany, Britain, and Scandinavia where there are plenty of blond people; women tend to find men with olive, mulatto or black skin very attractive. It is the grass is always green syndrome. If you were to ask an Asian girl would you want to marry an attractive Asian guy she would say yes because that is the most socially acceptable. But Asian people general have a thirst for new experiences and adventure, which is why Asian women, more so than men, are so intrigued by foreigners. If you were to ask Asian women would they want to have a relationship with a white blond European, most would say yes. Just as if you were to ask the same women would you like to have a one night stand with a black guy most would say yes too. Probably most would not be prepared to go through the social pressure of dating out of their race, but a large majority are positively curious about dating someone of another race. The fact is in the mono-cultural societies you find in Asia, Asian men and women don’t offer each other something new.
Also completely disagree that Asia women find Asian men physically more attractive, if anything it is complete the reverse. One major reason black people are popular with Asian women is our bodies, shallow but true. Black guys tend to have broader more muscular body features than Asians and even white guys and that really does turn on Asian women because it is completely different to what the women are used to in that reason. As 6’2’’ tall black in very good shape the amount of female attention I get when travelling through Asian seems to suggest that. For Joshua to say that Asian men are more attractive because they don’t have body should check up on his ethnic biology because black too don’t have much body hair too, especially 1st or 2nd generation Africans.
As for Eurotrash comments on Europeans. An American dissing Europe is like a boy spitting on his own mother. No disrespect but America was settled and founded by English people that were considered so religiously crazy that they were banished from the UK. They celebrated their freedom by enslaving black people and killing Indians for being on their own land. You talk about America saving the world in the 2nd world war, but if you know your history it was the Russia that really defeated the Nazi’s and The UK managed to fight most of the war without America and managed not to be conquered. I think you need to watch less Hollywood movies and read more history books. Pearl Harbour wasn’t a documentary. What does Europe owe the USA? If it wasn’t for the French they would be playing Cricket at Yankees stadium. The British gave America a language, political system, legal system, abolition of slavery, telephone communication, television and the internet and American gave Britain KFC, Ronald McDonald and black stereotypes. I don’t call that a fair trade. Anyway the USA’s days as top dog are coming to an end and the US politicians know it, which is why the USA is going round the world fighting any little country that has oil. Kind of like Bluto chasing Olive Oil from Popeye. I don’t think Europeans are anti-jewish I just don’t think Jewish people don’t have as much influence on European politics as they do on American politics. The American Government supports Israel not because it is right but because it is in there interest to do so. Successful Jewish Americans contribute billions to parties and there is a huge Jewish vote therefore the USA has to support Israel. It happened with the Irish Americans too. When Irish republicans where blowing up innocent English people, the American government did very little because of the huge American population with Irish heritage, in fact the US government even gave funding to the Irish terrorist. This is where African Americans kind of let Africa down, because African Americans didn’t have anywhere near the influence on US government as Jewish or Irish people had, so during the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s the US government could do what they like in Africa, such as selling weapons, diamond trade, support dictators and overthrow elected leaders. It happened everywhere, ethnic make up always influences politic policies. Like all the help Africa and cancel Africa’s debt is stemming from the UK and the reason why is because the UK has the biggest West African population outside of Africa.
Personally I think south Asians (Indian or Pakistani) are the worlds most prejudice people. They hate black people, white people and each other. In 80% of South Asian families if a girl dated someone out of her own race she would be disowned. There have been many cases in England where South Asian parents have murdered their own daughters or their lovers for dating out of the race. They call it honour killing because dating outside of your race brings great dishonour to the family in these cultures. What makes this stupid is this backward cast system they have in South Asia, where only people of the same social standing should get married, which just adds another level of prejudice and that is not including the religious prejudice. The ironic thing was that the cast system was brought to India by the early Europeans that reach their 800 years ago to prevent them from mixing too much with the natives. Some South Asian women are forced into marriages to men twice their age and many fear being caught with boy that isn’t the same race or cast could lead to them being homeless or dead. Suicide rates amongst UK South Asian women is far higher than any other race of women all because they do not have the freedom of choice.
Lee said,
March 14, 2007 @ 08:36
I just want to point out that a different Lee posted the comment on March 12, not the one who engaged in the exchange with Delboy. Since I hate to be confused with someone else, may I request that you please give yourself another name like LeeXXX or something?
thanks
thatgreat said,
March 16, 2007 @ 01:19
Mr. Delboy,
Makes some valid points but at the end of the day its an arcane topic. I still don’t understand why my Korean girl left me after 3.5 years. We had a terrific moments together, I helped in every possible way, but in the end it seems that she never really loved me. I have spoken to other people who have dated Koreans and they have had similar experiences like me. In that, one moment they are the most caring people in the world, next they kick out of there place….
Lee said,
March 21, 2007 @ 13:12
Delboy lamenting that Africa did not get help from black Americans and was let down by them? Come now. Maybe you should place the blame on the African dictators and the pervasive culture of corruption, entitlement and elitism in many of those societies? Seems that for every Nelson Mandela there’s a Mobutu Sese Seko, for every Kenneth Kaunda there’s a Robert Mugabe, or for every Julius Nyere there’s a Sani Abacha. Maybe you should also criticize those West Africans you keep mentioning that are the “largest and most succesful in the UK.” What were they doing during those time frames you mentioned? But even so, while Afro-Americans were fighting American apartheid, they still supported the “African cause” as much as they could. Africa would be much worse off than it is now ( I know that’s hard to imagine) if not for the support of black congressmen and other black american citizens.
BTW While it is true that Britain gave us most of our important state structures (’gave birth to us’ as I like to say), Britain did not give america the “abolition of slavery,” as you said in your post. Slavery was abolished in America only after an unfortunate and extremely bloody and brutal civil war, and long before that the northern american states had freed the slaves in that part of the country.
Read more history.
Silky said,
March 22, 2007 @ 04:47
Still my brother..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRjnExp5s70
Namiko said,
March 23, 2007 @ 07:25
Delboy, you are so hateful with all your anti-american statements. I’ve noticed that alot of English people enjoy spending their time bashing Americans online. I’m starting to think it’s in style there. And please don’t try to credit England for all of America’s success as a world leader. America is a nation founded on hard work and independance and of course it has it’s faults as any superpower will because humans are not perfect…not even the English, sorry to burst your bubble. And if you think the world’s next superpower is going to be a friendly picnic, you are in for a big surprise so I wouldn’t be so excited.
Jason said,
March 23, 2007 @ 16:23
Hey, I’m 26 & African American and I’ve had a number of relationships outside my race my thoughout my life. First 3 years with a Sicelian Girl, then 1 year with a mexican girl, 1 year with a another mexican girl, 1.5 year with a AfricAmerican girl, and 3 years with a Chinese girl from New York City. It’s weird, but I feel that black people and asian people have a natural connection. Like black people can be really goofy and funny and Asian People are always laughing and smiling. So like it works out like that. Any way my Chinese girlfriend is from China (Taisanese) originally. She came here when she was 14 and although her accent is heavy. Our relationship flourishes to this day.
Delboy said,
March 25, 2007 @ 12:36
Lee, you so disapoint me. You are obviously a man with some intelligence but you are just another brain washed African American. You have been conditioned to believe that African Americans lead the best lives of any black people in the world and it is just not true. Yes, there are more black millionaires in America than any other country, but development is based on the majority not the minority. As the saying goes, you are only as civilised as your least civilised people and America has plenty of low class people. I got a Spanish friend who has lived on main land Europe, the UK and now lives in the USA and she herself says that if she were black she would rather live in the UK because she would be better educated and less ignorant. She said that there is a greater pressure on black people to be street in America than the UK and she is neutral. She told me she met more black pimps and people that use the crack pipe 3 weeks in Las Vegas than she every saw in 5 years in London. Black just don’t do that in the UK. She found it funny, but I found it depressing that there are African Americans that match something I thought was a false stereotype. Obviously, they are a tiny minority, but my black friends that have been to USA say the same thing as I did when they go to America for the first time. They say the levels of poverty in America is far worst than anything you would see in the UK. I don’t totally agree with my friend, I think you are far more likely to own a company in being black in the USA than in the UK, which is down party to a society based so much on class. I think African Americans have more drive because the USA is a much more openly racist place than the UK. I think there is far less open racism in UK, which is due to some of the harshest race laws in the world, but I don’t think that is a good thing because racism is kept to private conversations. Colin Powell could have been in the the British Army and he said if he was he would of never become a general. In fact, the army is probably the most openly racist part of British culture, but that isn’t that much in comparison. Sometimes I think in weird way that black people need racism to drive them. I read once that 70% of Black American millionaires come from former Jim Crow states. There was a documentary on British TV that showed how Louisiana was a month ago and place is exactly the same as it was when the Hurricane hit. What kind of county that is the richest the world get away with claiming to be the most civilised place in the world when you can even fix damage from the a hurricane over a year later? You can get away with it if you can delude smart Americans that everything is okay.
I agree with you in about Africa in some points they have been too many bad leaders and too much corruption. Nigeria is oil rich is poor because government officials in the past signed dodgy contracts with foreign oil companies and didn’t redistribute the money to the people, so now you have foreign companies taking oil and money from a country due to an officials corruption. You are right about people like Robert Mugabe. He is just a leader that worked for war time and is not built for peace time Zimbabwe. If the British can get rid of Wintson Churchill after the 2nd world war Mugabe should of went years ago. Personally I think he is a madman and is an embarrassment to black people everywhere because makes people think that black people aren’t capable of self-governance. But you have to wary when dealing with sources of information especially when it comes to Africa because they can be misleading. Amin was a poor leader, but the media claimed he was cannibal just demonise him when he wasn’t. Lee, don’t that credit for stuff that had very little to do with Africans American. Just because the African Americans are aware of him and might mention him in speeches it doesn’t mean that they were responsible for Nelson Mandela freedom. Anyway the anti-apartheid movement was far bigger and stronger in the UK than the USA, so your mention of it shows a bit of your ignorance. Didn’t Dick Chenney and Donald Rumsfeld fight to keep Nelson Mandela in jail? So you African Americans really did exert your influence on American politics by punish them for such a bad move, by promoting them to office. You talk about corruption and poor leadership, but where does Ghana sit in your theory on West African countries? No war, little corruption and no dictator and a steady democracy the country is being kept poor by the American and European Farming subsides. When I mean African Americans are letting Africans down is because Black people make up 10% of country that has 200 million people, and black people make up only make 2.5% of the UK, which has a population of 70 million. Black people seem to have more influence on the UK government than African Americans have on theirs despite have a great number of people. The reason is that there are more educated black people in the UK than in the USA, so black people in the USA are not punching their weight. That is why the fair trade movement is coming from the UK and not the USA. That is why Tony Blair and his successor is Gordon Brown are telling your President and European heads of state to get rid of the unfair trade laws that keep non-corrupt nations like Ghana poor. Have you been lobbing your senator about this? I doubt it. I’m sorry Lee, but when you have a CIA agent that writes a memoir stating that it was US policy in the 70s and 80s to keep African nations in heavily debt through loans with high interest rates they wouldn’t charge other nations, because they wanted to stop development in Africa because they didn’t want them turning into communist, I have to ask the question how can a country do that with so many people of African descent in the country? By the way the UK actually gives more aid to Africa than USA and that is a fact. In fact Ghana is being built now by the generation that left in the 70s and their children like me. The generation that left are returning for their retirement. I’m looking to start a business there. What are you doing given that most African Americans originate from Ghanaian Akan tribe? Mostly nothing like many African Americans. As your saying goes ‘talk is cheap’. Plus most African American millionaires would rather obtain material goods than invest back into their own communities, so they are hardly likely to care about Africans.
I just think because you have lived a privilege life and educated yourself, you assume most African Americans have a life like yours. Well, when you assume you make an ass at out of yourself. There are African Americans that wear gold and diamond gum shields and prop up the diamond business that wrecks Africa, because they think it is cool. Black people in the UK have not followed that fashion because they are aware of the consequences and find it rather ignorant. African Americans used to be the inspiration for black people in the world and the UK, but there is a real backlash from Black people in the UK against African American culture now. Due to a spate gang shootings and stabbings by very young black teenagers, black people in the UK are starting to question the influence of African American culture on the black younger generation in the UK. The people who took part in the crimes were heavy influenced by gangster rap and many people now see African Americans less developed than UK black people and parts of African American culture as having an negative effect on young British black people, by lowing aspirations and importing American problems such as black on black gang violence that never existed 5 years ago.
By the way Lee, the British did abolish the international traffic of slaves, so America could not take more people from Africa. It just didn’t stop domestic slavery and civil war wasn’t just about slavery. So I do read history books and probably more than you.
Namiko, it may surprise you but I’m not that anti-American. I don’t mind American people even though they can be a bit dim or ignorant. But anti-Americanism is pretty much a worldwide thing now, so I’m a bit surprised you think it is only a British thing. Pretty much all the European countries feel the same, Africans distrust too, which is why when Bush tried to offer the Genetically Modified food Americans wouldn’t buy there were massive protests. South American is just as anti-American, we don’t really need to mention the middle east and the only place where there isn’t much anti-Americanism is Asia, which is strange given what American has done to that region.
I just hate the hypocrisies of America. Just look at their history compared to the English. In American history the only people that suffer are non-white people. They killed Native Americans, enslaved and oppressed Blacks, nuked the Japanese, napalmed Vietnamese, divided Korea, helping dictators in the South America, Africa and Asia as well as making a mess of the Middle East. The English pretty much tried to mess with everybody regardless of colour so you to kind of admire that. It was more about the colour of money than the colour of the people. What they did with blacks they pretty much did with Scots, Irish and Welsh besides the slavery part. Yes they stole land off the Indians and Africans, but they gave it back and still own Australia, Canada, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and parts of Spain and Argentina. And have colonised parts of Greece and Southern France through tourism. A perfect example of British even handedness is the South African Boer War. They asked the Africans to help fight the Dutch in the area and they really did slaughter them. The British forced the Dutch Boers into the mountains were they starved to death. When the British won the war the Dutch had an enormous bitterness towards the Africans for helping the British and this bitterness was part of what the apartheid system was founded on. So the British fucked both peoples over lol.
Namiko, you say America’s success was built from their own hard work, but who was doing the hard work? Black slaves. It is no coincidence that the countries that had slaves like USA, UK, France and Dutch became the richest in the world. What bothers me is that many white Americans feel that slavery has nothing to do with this and don’t even feel guilt for it. British white people feel guiltier for what happened during slavery despite being the first nation to outlaw it. Namiko, you say America’s success had noting to do with the British, but just look at the places the British did go to compared to the places they didn’t go. Just look at South America where the Spanish and Portuguese went and compared that to North America where the British went. America has its faults but it is far more developed than say Brazil. The USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Ghana, South Africa, Egypt, Nigeria, Jamaica, Barbados, St. Lucia, Trinidad & Tobago and India are all are former British colonies and some of the most developed nations in their regions. Don’t get me wrong I used to be very anti-British Empire because I felt it did a lot of bad things, but I saw a documentary on pre-independent Africa in the 1950s. Due to the British Empire Africa was the third most developed continent behind North America and Europe in the 1940s and 1950s. This has really made me access my views on the British Empire especially when I look at the problems Africa has now. I guess a sign of an intelligent man is changing your mind.
Koji said,
March 27, 2007 @ 07:29
Hello…I’m replying to a commnet I read at the top* when someone mentioned that scientists believe that the perfect genetic human would be a mix between Black (West African in particualar) Man and Asian Woman. I didn’t know that, I’m pretty smart myself, well..atleast my grades in school shows this. lol
My Father is from the U.S. and is an American (Black). Still not knowing what he wanted to do in life, he joined the Marines after highschool. He was involved in Desert Storm. He was also stationed in Japan for 3 years where he met my mother (Japanese). I was born in Tokyo, but moved to the U.S. with my Mother and Father afterwards. My father was then able to go to college and graduated from Law School. My mother was also going to school when she had become interested in Real Estate in the U.S. I stayed in the U.S. until age 10 approximately. Around that time, my Mother and Father went their seperate ways, and my mother and me went back to Japan.
At age 15, my mother decided that she would go back to the U.S. for opportunity and asked if I wanted to go back with her. I didn’t want to leave my friends, so I decided to stay here with my Uncle & Aunt. My Father is still a lawyer in Michigan, U.S.A. and my mother is a successful Real Estate Agent in Florida, U.S.A. I visit them anytime I get a break from school (usually 2-3 times a year) or whenever it’s possible. I’m currently a 17-year old, 2nd year at an all-boy highschool but I think I will go back to U.S. for college atleast because it seems more like fun, or maybe because I want to be closer to my mother again. ^_^
On the original subject, I must say that whoever stated previously that all Japanese hate blacks is totally absurd. I live here and I can tell you, firsthand, that this is not the case. But then again, I live in Tokyo, and I’m definately sure that the degree of discrimination and acceptance differs from region to region. Actually, this is definately true because if you were a black man living in Tokyo, it wouldn’t matter much because there are many ethnicities in Tokyo. On the otherhand, if you were to live somewhere smaller with little or no other ethnicities other than Japanese, you would be the center of attention and always looked at. This just might be their curiosity because they haven’t seen many people of your ethnic background. But actually most of the stereotypes cater to the older-japanese crowd. It is true, however, that most of what is known here about the black culture is what is seen on MTV here. lol In the eyes of the young people, they see blacks as “cool”. Although I am very young, I can’t explain what it’s really like for the grown-ups here, but I do see many Japanese-Black relationships as well as others (Again, could possibly just be Tokyo lol). One thing that I was told by a Japanese lady here was that many Japanese girls see young-black men as someone to have fun with, but not someone who they’d settle down with, and I’d have to agree. This must be in relation to the young-black males that are stationed here from the Military. They are the crowd (In general, not just blacks) that most-likely parties with japanese girls and go clubbing that are foreigners.
koji
Ana said,
March 27, 2007 @ 12:04
ok koji so what about the guys? who will they go out with/date/settle down with?
heloo from eastern europe said,
March 27, 2007 @ 16:39
heloo, im eugen in Romania in eastern europe and want have a girl friend from asia because culture diference
my email is boldoreugen@yahoo.com
my hobies are photography, satelite tv, music.
Hmm, curiouser and curiouser! said,
March 27, 2007 @ 20:00
This article is really interesting to me, since I’m from Hawaii (which is often called the most culturally diverse place on Earth). Having lived here all my life, with friends of seriously every racial background you can name, I’ve seen every one of the previously mentioned stereotypes lived and played out around me.
I’m just curious to know what people feel about Eurasians/half-breeds like myself. I’m half Irish, half Japanese. do people around the world ever think our “type” is attractive? Sometimes I don’t think so, and sometimes I feel like the only place my type could be considered attractive is right here in the islands. Just curious, opinions appreciated, try not to be too harsh!
Lee said,
March 28, 2007 @ 14:36
Delboy, you’ve obviously had some things you wanted to get off your chest because you raise issues that I never mentioned in my post. Yet your post reads as if you have split personality disorder, as if you are trying to hold two opposing ideas, by for example giving the example or opinion of a trusted friend and then saying that you don’t necessarily agree with them.
And don’t put words in my mouth. I never said black americans were responsible for Mandela being free. Where in my post did i say that? Nowhere. I pointed out that the free south africa movement in america was started by black americans. I can’t comment on who started the english, french, norwegian or wherever else free south africa movement. But in the US it was started by black americans. That’s all I said. And it was said in response to your comment that “black americans let africa down.” I also pointed out that Africans let africa down. And whats with the idi Amin comments? I didn’t mention that. Maybe you mention it because you just saw The Last King of Scotland and took the time to do some research on Amin.
The US and Britain abolished the slave TRADE at about the same time, britain in 1807 and US in 1808 (its mentioned in our Constitution unfortunately). Britain and US navy cooperated in joint operations to prevent slave exports from Africa. Slavery continued to be officially practiced in the US until the Civil War’s conclusion. So you do need to read more history.
BTW I grew up in poor american “ghetto” areas or housing projects. I never met or saw a pimp, although I saw other negative things that I’m sure would be familiar to residents of poor areas all over the world, whether it’s Rio, London, or Paris.
Your post is full of so many puerile notions and weak points that I could savage it, but that wouldn’t serve any useful purpose. As it seems you are not the kind of person that can honestly face his weaknesses and shortcoming, and therefore cannot overcome them, i.e. resistant to change. But I would suggest that you read more and maybe ask questions of a more diverse group of americans
Delboy said,
March 29, 2007 @ 20:17
Before this chat room becomes the Lee & Delboy black issues show. I will say my response to him.
You can be insulting and childish and claim I have a split personality, but I feel it is always best to express over people’s points of views whether they are your own or not.
I am not here to dissect every word or sentence you said, but to elaborate on the views you expressed and there is the subtle difference. You said ‘But even so, while Afro-Americans were fighting American apartheid, they still supported the “African cause” as much as they could’ as an indication that African Americans have not let down Africans. Well you failed to describe what they actually did and I choose to belittle that point by raising the fact that the UK had the biggest movement and most influence on Mandela’s freedom because the place was a British colony. I was trying to show subtly that if that is your best example of African Americans helping Africans then they haven’t done much. I know subtly and irony is a strong point for American people so I will try and explain it as I go along. Personally I don’t know why you even mentioned such poor example; it only really exposed your ignorance of black politics outside of America.
As for my mention of Amin, you seemed to be mentioning all the bad leaders in Africa past and present. I agreed with you on that point, but I mentioned Amin as an example to erk on the side of caution when it comes to your sources on African leaders and politics. Western media has a way of demonising foreign nations they don’t understand. Amin was the most obvious African example a poor leader, but the media claimed he was cannibal. I have seen the Last King of Scotland and it is a good fast paced fictional film, but I don’t get my information from films like you Americans. On of the advantages of having African parents are that you get first hand knowledge of African politics. My Grandfather was a Ghanaian politician at the time of Ghanaians independence and worked in the first independent government. My dad used to talk about how the media over the top demonised Idi Amin by calling him a cannibal when I was a kid in the 1980’s. Remember what I said; when you assume you make an ass out of yourself. Sometimes it is better to show an idiot he is one rather than tell him lol. You can read books only, but any good historian knows that primary sources are better than secondary sources.
Lastly Lee, I want to ask you where have you been? I really want you to come back to me and answer that question. I have been around the globe and seen people including black people across the world. I’ve been to Brazil the country with the biggest black population out side of Africa were slavery lasted up to till the 1900. A country where being black still carries a stigma (not as much as Native Indians) that mixed race people register themselves as white. I’ve been to Southern Europe where they are so openly racist that no educated black person would want to settle there, so only the desperate Africans in boats would want to go there to live. Being desperate and uneducated they become pimps or hookers because they can’t get jobs because they are illegal. In places like Spain and Italy most of the hookers are Black Africans and this only increases the negative racism attitudes these countries have towards black people. I have been to Prague and Moscow where women seemed intrigued by black guys, Russian men have a complete hatred of them. In Russia they don’t even call out racist names they think Black people are actually animals that is how backward they are there. Very shocking in person, especially when in Moscow there is a lot of blacks and mixed raced Russians. I have been to Asia in Thailand were all the woman are being taken from local men and when a Thai girl goes with a white guy is considered a good business move, but when she is with a black guy she is a whore because black people through out Asia are said to be good lovers. I been to Africa where guys from redneck states have been building evangelical churches to take money from people that don’t have much to fund their fortunes. I have been to Paris and Lyon and live in London where the ethnic make up is the same, but the lives are very different. In France they don’t record ethnicity so companies can discriminate on colour and never be found out, which they do. So ethnic people find it hard to get jobs and become second class citizens separate from France. The UK is tolerant on the surface because the British demand to polite and means open racism is a no-no. In terms of shallow aspects England is the world’s most tolerant nation. In response to that guy in Hawaii, London is by far the most diverse place the world. You can find person from every country in London, but the difference between places in America is that people are really mixing. You can easily find a French woman dating a Japanese man, A Jamaican with an Indian Girl, A Irish man with a Brazilian or Ghanaian with a with Spaniard. You don’t get the world’s biggest mixed race population (50% of the ethnic population is mixed 5 million) if people don’t mix. The UK certainly is not a utopia and there are problems. Despite the fact that ethnic population is 10% of the country less that 1% makes up the members of parliament. While public organisations are very ethnic and diverse due to a mandate that they should be made up of a diverse ethnic mix in major corporations the ethnic mix is low and even lower higher up. You also have the problem of the British white population moving out of ethnic diverse areas and being replaced by not so tolerant East European and white South African population, which is causing more segregation in London. Also with each wave in wave of immigration people are tending to stick their own, but the good news is the intellectual classes, the working class and British born people are still mixing. In all those places and people I met I found a common lowest denominator on the way Hip Hop culture affects black people in a negative way across the globe. Koji said it herself that even in Japan people think that is how black people are and I have been called American enough times around the world to find out that is the case. When I was in Thailand in a shop despite the fact I was clearly a tourist, because there are hardly any black locals in Thailand, was followed by security guard around the shop because of his perceived image of black. I found the thing rather funny because I clearly have the money to travel to Thailand so I’m not likely to shoplift lol. This negative image is being projected from America and if you go to many places in the world they think the only place you have black people is America and Africa. The problem is young black people, boys especially around the world now think that is the way to act and I’m not going to keep quiet or articulate intellectualised denial and excuses, but I’m not the kind of person to do that. Yes Lee, there are plenty of great African Americans to inspire not just Black people, but people in general. Oprah Winfrey is the richest woman on the planet but has a good heart and can be inspiration to all. But your country is not projecting the great black people as the models, but people like the Game, 2 Pac, 50 Cent, Snoop Dogg, Jay-Z, Ja Rule and others. No disrespect but while these people grew without much and made the most of potential given their backgrounds, I don’t like the fact that these people low class people ignorant people are being held up as people to follow. Maybe because you are in the eye of the storm in America that you can’t see the international effects of this, but when you see young black middle class and educated people in Europe, Africa and South America wearing hip-hop gear because they are confused and think if you act that way you are more black and cool, it makes me want talk about it. I’m not like you and going to put my head in the sand and think everything is okay. When I went to the Caribbean in 2005 locals there are actually turning to country and western music because they think it is a far more positive influence on people. I think Europe is coming up with more positive Black role models even if they are limited to the sports field. Thierry Henry is the world’s most famous black sportsmen even more than Tiger Woods, because more people care and know who he is. He is handsome, charming, witty, multilingual and known for his intelligence all over the world. There is also another new British black role Lewis Hamilton. The Cambridge University educated and highly articulate F1 driver who people say could be the greatest driver to race a car and he is only 21.
There is a reason why my posts have been getting more positive feedback because these are opinions based out of real experiences, speaking to real people and going to real places. If your opinions are based on reading history only then that is theory alone. Enough of this Black on Black debate this is a room about Asian dating habits.
I have to say if and when I date an Asia woman again she would have to come from a developed part of the world. My trip to Thailand traumatised me because even though the place was full of really beautiful oriental women, the ease in which I saw men buy the love on these beautiful Asian girls nearly put me off Asian women forever. When you see so many old bald white men with stunning looking Asian women, it make me think if I was to date a Thai born girl am I exploiting her or is she exploiting me. Either way I wouldn’t be comfortable in that situation, so the if I was to date an Asian girl again she would have to from Japan, China, South Korea, or raised in a western country so I would be more sure about the relationship being a more 50-50 thing.
The last Asian girl I was with in London was a South Korea student called Yoyo. I don’t know what they eat in Korea, but she had the most untypical Asian girl body shape. Most people stereotype Asian girls as being very thin, no chest and very short. She was 179 cm tall and had the greatest breast I have ever seen on a woman let alone an Asian girl and she was completely natural. She looked like an Asian Pamela Anderson with curves in the right places and I still have dreams about her now and how good I felt being with her. It was a pity she had went back to Korea after her studies and I wasn’t prepare to go to South Korea, but that happens in relationships.
As for my comment on the genetic studies about Asian women and Black men producing the most rounded children, but does anybody want to help a 6’2’’ tall muscular black guy in London with his experiment
email Derk814151977@hotmail.com lol. I thought if that guy in Romania can be lazy so can I lol.