Japanese women dream of the USA
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DIMSDRIVE performed internet-based research involving 5,274 people in September of last year to find out which country’s citizens would people most want to marry. It is not stated whether or not the people interviewed were single or not.
The Asia versus the West split is quite noticeable in the men, but really striking amongst the women. I previously translated statistics regarding international marriages in Japan that shows that the ideals being expressed here do not seem to be realised.
On a slight tangent, I watched the last episode of an NHK English learning program which features an English-speaking Western blonde angel that prods a clueless office worker along the path to success at her job getting a date with her transferred from New York colleague, the ideal tall, muscular, tanned, well-coiffured white executive. The angel’s job was done because the glaikit Misaki finally pulled her man.
Research results
Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (Sample size=5,274, free answer)
Rank Votes 1 USA 1,144 2 Korea 505 3 UK 442 4 Italy 370 5 France 344 6 Australia 218 7 Germany 203 8 China 197 9 Canada 150 10 Russia 120 Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (By sex, free answer)
Rank MaleN=2,468 Votes Rank FemaleN=2,806 Votes 1 USA 368 1 USA 776 2 Korea 297 2 UK 347 3 China 174 3 Italy 278 4 France 134 4 France 210 5 Russia 117 5 Korea 208 6 Thailand 99 6 Australia 145 7 UK 95 7 Germany 131 8 Italy 92 8 Canada 99 9= Taiwan 73 9 Switzerland 47 9= Australia 73 10 Spain 34 First, looking at the East-West split – or more accurately, perhaps, the caucasian-Asian split (I’m not aware of any black Western role-models in Japan) we see that for men, 36% of the total votes were for Western wives versus 26% for Asian women, favouring the West (I’m including Russia, with Maria Sharapova as the popular image of the country) by just over a third. However for women there is a marked difference; about 74% in total choose the West (over 40% for the USA alone) versus a mere 7.4% for the East, a massive ten to one vote for Europe and the USA.
Next, looking at the detailed age breakdown, it’s only in the teenage girls group that the USA fails to top the charts, losing out to France and Korea, and equal with the UK. For men in their twenties, American women are preferred over the second-placed Korean women by almost 60%, and the Chinese are back in fifth, gaining just over a third of the number of votes of the USA. However, the older men get, the stronger the charms of the Asian neighbours become, with the gap at its smallest being just a mere three votes. Similarly, for men in their forties and over, Chinese women cut the gap from a third to about a half of the USA score.
For women, as they get older (ignoring the over sixty bracket which has a very small sample size, so may be rather inaccurate) the attraction to American men only get stronger; in their twenties, Americans get just under a quarter of the vote, but by their fifties, it surpasses three in ten. Despite the charms of the disturbingly Harry Potter-like Bae Yong Joon Korean men do not seem to be particularly favoured by the middle-aged demographic.
These two main trends noted above are perhaps reflections on Japanese society as much as on foreign stereotypes. The younger men hold images of themselves as charming the sophisticated Western woman, but as they age (and visit dodgy hostess bars…) they come to realise that perhaps only Asian women could accept their typical Japanese behaviour. For women, after having been around Japanese men for many, many years, they too may come to realise that the Western stereotypes of politeness and chivalry are the only things that could satisty them in marriage.
Bonus points if you can name the people pictured…
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yuki – Your ignorant comment is not really worth this response, but since others may also want to know …
In 2003, there were 36,039 international marriages between Japanese and non-Japanese in Japan – about one out of twenty (5% of all) marriages. About 80% of these interracial marriages involved a Japanese male marrying a foreign female (predominantly Chinese, Filipino, Korean, Thai and Brazilian), and 20% involve marriage to a foreign husband (predominantly Korean, American, Chinese, British and Brazilian). It is certainly likely that this figure has increased since then.
http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/org/JLC/articles/HiraganaTimes-222-16to17.pdf
As to Japanese living in America (counting both Japan-raised and US-raised), Japanese men marry whites or blacks about 20% of the time and Japanese women marry whites or blacks nearly 45% of the time. The data breakdown is available at the link below.
http://www.asian-nation.org/interracial.shtml
That also a avery ignorant statement for another reason. One the fact it is low in comparison western men are a fraction of a percent compared to the entire population of japan. 0.01% would be actually a good statistic if you did not make it up like I am sure you did. Also from what I read in the 2003 statistic the number of international marriage decreased a little in 2007 except for those marrying British and American men while Korean men has fallen dramatically since the mid 90′s. I think Yuki or whatever his name is. I am sure hes an asian american man living on the west coast using a female psuedonym. Needs to do a better job in reading statistics.
I also cannot say enough japanese women as a whole do not usually discriminate. Mikale had a great post in the past stating that fact quite elegantly. But western men tend to show up more on a list of preferance they would go out with or marry probably because the are more indirectly fimiliar with them through commercials and hollywood movies to those living with small foreign populations. http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2008/08/13/will-japan-become-a-society-of-half-breeds/ The reporter of that seems a little bitter about the statistic but thats 2008.
Remember japanese women tend to be just as smart as they are beautiful, they know what they are doing. From what I hear when I talk to them they are just like anyone from any other modern society. Race is less of an issue and I cannot say that enough. I know alot of you are angry or amused about the amount of information I put up here but I am worried about japanese who might find such a statistic and is usually accompanied by commenters treating them poorly and are racist, thanks to something called a selection bias. Those jerks are a minority so I want to make sure they have people defending them.
You know Robert, Relationships whether Japanese and Western or not are one hell of a lot more involved than your statistics. I do not known nor care to comment on the amount of items that you post, but I will say that you seem detached. Statistics? Do you truly believe that Japanese women are judged primarily because of their race? I do not think you are accurate there at all! And are you really certain you want to put any weight into statistics when obviously your intent is to impress and meet a person you may wish to spend your entire life with is at stake? Love between two persons is a affair involving two hearts — A Japanese heart and if you will, perhaps an Americans heart. I am amazed that you would bother to relate through statistics, and for that matter, 2003 statistics regarding a topic so important — LOVE. I dont care how much you comment, I just do not think you post here for the reasons that you say. If certain types in your perceptions are a minority than why make anything of it? Since when has race ever been an issue between the sexes? Nonsense!
I think you misunderstood Robert’s last post. I think he meant that because some Japanese people might come to this page and find mean comments against interracial relationships and feel discouraged, he wants to assure that there are approving comments as well. The “mean commenters” are the “minority” in the real world but for some reason prevalent online. At least that’s how I saw it.
As to your rant about statistics v. love, I don’t understand it at all. You can only track trends in aggregate. It is the only ammunition against those who seek to ostracize or treat people as abnormal by saying that their position is unpopular or “0.01%” or something. While I made the same point as you above re: interracial openness, it is also true that race is very much an issue ‘between the sexes’.
As this poll well demonstrates (and my statistical links), perceptions of race and suitability of various races and nationalities as potential partners differs wildly between the sexes. Though not often true, sometimes women are less likely than men to marry outside of their race – as is actually the case in Japan! Though women bear the brunt of the negative comments on interracial relationships.
Women can be called “race traitor” and worse. Why should men be given free reign? This is a very unfair double-standard.
I am sorry that I come to this site late as not to catch wind of the “mean comments” as you have shared. That to me doesn’t make sense – why bother to surf to a site that is unequivocally Japanese in its interest simply to make “mean comments?” That would, I believe, be “a minority of jerks” from my perspective – why bother to make negative comments? I personally happen to like and have seriously dated several Japanese women from Japan and so I am – as a newcomer – not in agreement with you with regard to how serious relationships that develop between Japanese and Westerners that can lead to marriage, your statistics or not! I have the experiences with far too many Japanese neighbors, students and friends and feel that reality is a far better indicator than your 2003 statistics or your statistical links. I have enjoyed three very wonderful relationships the last being almost a keeper. 10,000 miles of separation was a little bit too much for both of us as was 16 hours of flight time. But the country, the people, the cuisine, traditions new meshed with old, architecture, their wonderfully kept gardens ,parks and shrines and that awesome Romance Car! Love it!! You arent kidding! I am very clear that you cant follow me at all but for your information child, neither do I rant. So “women bear the brunt of negative comments??” Who asked them to? Your comment is utterly ridiculous! What are you? Japans sole keeper and protector? Women, any woman, only bears that which she chooses to bear and chooses to take responsibility of. Negative comments?? That’s ridiculous! – I am sure that Japanese women are more mature than that and do not listen to those comments nor take them personally. No, you seem to be into polls and trends, so absolutely no, you are not man enough to follow or understand – you aren’t a man. I came here to meet women – not to chit chat with little boys who think or feel their youthful slight interest in things Japanese makes them a State Appointed authority regarding all the hearts of women who live in the country. You can choke on your statistical links for all I care and I can give one hell about whether I read Robert accurately or not — He comes off to me as a wordy narcissist and both of you seem a bit like losers to me — I am obviously not in a meet people of the opposite sex site here. Hence Einstein, my mentioning stats vs relationships. I am a living vibrant manly man who loves women in general and Japanese women especially. So please – keeps your statistical links. Your very tired, very worn out “double standard” exists only in your head! Women are not stupid and obviously you are an inexperienced sounding little boy with very few relationships to speak of. I must go – I am wasting my time here with children and their numbers. Arigatto
Yes Mikale is right. The web site I posted had commentary I did not approve of but did show obviously people being disheartened by that fact. Of course Love is the most important thing. I know listing some statistics can make me seem decohered to that fact. Also from other reports that a large portion of Japanese men who are marrying out are those in rural parts of the country who order mail order brides. Women have a tendency to leave to get educated. There has been a recent spike in men ordering Russian women for example. So I do not know how much Japanese men are marrying out by choice or as a consequence of urbanization. Chinese women have been in the brunt of the mail order phenomenon. But the current generation of Japanese are extremely modern. I am impressed of the amount of social progress which has been made as fast as a flash in a pan with little history of a large amount of coexistence. 1ltlos If I came off as an ass I guess that might be a problem with me expressing my ideas or maybe your state of mind reading it got a different interpretation or a bit of both. The negative comments on other sites with these kinds of statistics have stuff like Japanese men saying how hard their dick is. Or some racist who says Japanese women are “ugly and have no ass”. I was trying preempt a possible racist flame war with some possible Japanese onlookers assuming we are evil. What made you think I was dawning the title “Japans sole protector”. I have no idea how you got that. I agree about the statistics. It was Mark twain who said there are 3 kinds of lies in the world lies, damn lies and statistics. Of course you can’t counter a negative comment about statistics without using them in turn. It is the only tangable evidence people can get without them being here. Which I am sure 1ltlos is what you mean. I believe you wish any onlookers would use a deep personal experience and find love that is transcendent beyond the order of numbers. Also pardon me coming off as a verbose pedant I respect the people around me enough not to dumb down my speech like I am talking to children. I am sure most people who are reading are adults and should be treated like one.
I have read an online source (the current address eludes me now,) that the key to dating a Japanese woman is, as said above, learning the language (even though she may wish to speak and practice her English), the culture, and, as Robert said above, genuine feelings.
What this source -did- say, was that the real trick was to coordinate these facets harmoniously. The direct approach may not always work (although, I say this after the fact of acknowledging that Japanese women who are interested in westerners may fundamentally be mentally prepped to deal with such an interaction), and that a good place to practice socializing amongst them would be in international clubs, exchanges, and interest groups.
In a way, the majority of the comments above would make sense if it was all taken into a perspective of wholeness. After all, what better way to show one’s understanding and appreciation of Japanese culture than to make a point that one ‘harmonizes’ their view, approach, and sensitivity?
What do you mean by “Mentally prepped”? It is rediculous to assume that the women that would like to date foreign men are different from the others. Or do you mean they are somewhat more mentally prepared if there is some cultural faux pas the foreigner commited. That would be true in all Japanese. They know you might not know the culture so they give you alot of slack at times. Also international clubs or “International friendship parties” seem to be for just women that want sex. The ones that go there do not usually want a relationship at the moment. 30 percent do but the agressive ones are the ones you should stay away from. Again the average japanese woman of the younger generation care more about if you are emotionaly available, you have money to support a family (not to buy her shit) Tall, have muscle (not too much) and romantic. I have met relativly alot of women that say japanese men do not have those values so they are not attracted to them. Though this is uncommon many still don’t care what race you are.
This was talked about a lot online even when I got the internet in the 90s.
2003 Marriage statistics in Japan:
740,191 people got married of that 36,039 married foreign people or a little under 5%. Of that, 27,881 Japanese men married foreigners while 8,158 Japanese women married foreigners (2,235 Koreans, 1,529 Americans, etc.) So Basically 1% of Japanese women married a foreigner and 3.7% of Japanese men married a foreigner. Basically, Japanese Women dreaming of USA isn’t true.
Sources: This Blog: http://whatjapanthinks.com/2005/11/29/international-marriage-still-means-japanese-man-and-asian-woman/ and http://wwwdbtk.mhlw.go.jp/toukei/youran/data16k/1-37.xls
http://www.indexmundi.com/japan/demographics_profile.html
Ok “Facts” you obviously cannot read statistics or refuse to do so. Above is listed the actaul population of Japan. Obviously you have the ability to speak and understand language so you have enough mental capacity to know to be married people have to be in close proximity to each other. Atleast within a few feet. Marriage might mean they would date first which would imply white males would have to be there. They are probably .04 percent of the population making the number of american married actually excedingly good in thier favor. Look at the population compared to Zainichi Koreans at .5 percent. I also don’t know if you have brain damage so ill go easy so not to insult brain damaged people. I am sorry you are obviously an asian american living on the west coast that hates the fact asian women have no preferance. You want them to belong to you. You inately feel they are objects that should not go wandering around. Problem is they have a mind of thier own. Unlike you they seem to know how to use it.
Robert… who you maybe… your lucky that your white.. seriously I understand that there are a lot of angry asian men out there and they hate the fact that a lot of Asian women date out of their race… But stop acting like you are someone special person… ‘Problem is they have mind of their own.’ yah, yah!! Nice going… you made yourself look like the sterotypical Hollywood White Knight. The problem is that Asian women in general have been brain washed by this White Knight dream… truth is that most of you expats are Freakin Pigs… and treat Asian women like pieces of meat. Half of you guys are retards only going to Asian country to teach English… Question, does Canada or the US allow teachers to F their students after class? Seriously, it getting old and stop stating that mix marriage is great… hey interracial marriage is going to happen, but stop promoting it as if it is great. If God want this he would have let tigers ‘f’ lions or chimps ‘f’ gorillas… Besides there is nothing wrong for Japanese men and women marrying… just because you are freakin loser that cannot get any white women… you have to be part of this problem. And stop saying that Asian men are angry…’I am sorry you are obviously an asian american… blah, blah… You say the same thing over and over… just be happy that you are white dude and enjoy your self-hating, I can’t get any white girl, sellout ass to some Asian women. Hush and be proud and be greatful that you are white… because brother Hollywood has done you well… because I have seen a lot of dumbass white dudes like yourself getting hot ass Asian chicks… enjoy… Charisma Man!!
That was my fault my statements seemed too general applying to all asian men in the united states. That is my fault and I know the vast majority are not like this. It just always seemed the me the assholes the post this garbage were those few racist asian men that live on the west coast. The asian guys I was friends with back in the states don’t really care too much about the situation. Probably because thier married to white women. My friend Mike whos vietnamese goes through white woman like they were nothing and are really attracted to him. I can see why hes a really nice guy and certainly not ugly. The only ones that seem to be bitter about the situation are ugly ones. Guys like mike probably do not bother posting that garbage because hes laughing all the way to the bank. Im not saying all the white guys here are saints some are really revolting. But I do not blame the person with the last post. My language was probably not as explicit as I should. But alot of what you say is just wrong in so many ways. I can’t even go through how much stuff you got wrong.
Robert I am not picking on you but again, you state that only ugly Asians are the ones always complaining. Come on now… you are telling me that only white models go to Japan and who are you to judge who is ugly and who is not. Please stop… and I have seen more than my share of ugly ass white men with some beautiful Asian women. It is not just in Japan… Korea, Thailand, Vietnam, PI, etc, etc… Please stop what you are saying. To me you are racist… “I have Asian friends back in the states that don’t care, maybe because they are married to white women…etc… So what they are married to white women…. good for them… but stop preaching about interracial marriage. Trying to find someone in life is just hard enough… love should be colorbind, but it is not… the fact if the world was fair we all be mixed race, but it is not fair.. and currently whites have it better in todays world. Second I apologize for my bashing, and I was wrong and out of line. Then again, you were quite out of line yourself. If I were you, I would just shut the hell up and stop complaining and stop posting on these sites. Who cares what Asian men say, I mean they do have a case about the marriage disparity and they do have a case on how they are portrayed in our world. As Richard Pryor told Bill Cosby… “Have a coke and shut the F Up.” Because dude enjoy the RIDE as it is good for your kind right now.
I guess I got a little upset when you said the comment about chimps f’ing gorillas or lions f’ing tigers. That was such a horrible analogy. Those are 2 different species.
These are 2 humans together. Also I don’t think there is anything wrong with intra-racial relationships that is completly rediculous. I did make a comment earlier about the amount of cheating japanese men do. That seems cultural it is not my place to dictate whether that is right or not. Again I should note things are changing. But culturaly for men cheating is ok as long as your wife does not know about it. There seems to be a don’t ask don’t tell policy about that. Though all japanese women here seem to expect western men to be faithful and they should.
I understand that the asian male community has not always had an easy time with thier image in the U.S. but like all things I think is changing. John Cho for example. Im straight but id totally do that guy. Harold and Kumar was awesome and I have a serious mancrush on him since the Star Trek movie. But for every engrish speaking love you long time woman in american cinema, There seems to be a physically inept white guy (Owen Wilson) compared the physical prowess of (Jackie Chan) asian guy like in Shanghai noon.
Of course I think it would be fair to also note alot of white girls come to Japan for the japanese guys. In my opinion 99.9999% have thought of that as a possibility. Might not be the sole reason for everyone of them, but I have met a good few where that was the case.
Honestly I don’t really want to post anymore. I was not expecting to but parts of that last post seemed like it would not make any difference if you were wearing a white hood if other parts were omitted.
Also I never got why asian guys had problems. I have seen a ton of asian male/white female relationships back at the eagles nest. Where I was Durham, North Carolina I saw more of those than the opposite. 3 in my neighborhood alone. Likes white nurses and walk around with wife beaters and cowboy hats these guys but they were awesome. OF course I did not live in San Francisco where supposedly this is a “problem”.
Also Mike the Guy I told you about. This guy went through white women like a family of five goes through toilet paper. He says he only dates white women and I never thought there was anything wrong with that. I was even a little jealous at the time.
Also trying to get people to stop talking about interracial marriage is a bit of a hard sell. The basis of the survey above might make not talking about it difficult. So what you rather I comment on sports? How bout dem Panthers?
Before I go, I don’t blame you for reacting like that. I would probably do the same if I had the same beliefs.
To “Robert your lucky your white”: Please watch your language and watch your trolling. This is your final warning.
Sorry Ken Y-N about my abusive language and about me trolling… by the way I really am not fishing or looking for trouble here.
Robert, no wonder you are like this. You are a Panthers fan… I see it all clear now. And really the only thing NC has is the Tar heels. Thank goodness for them. How about them Vikings?
Again, if human beings were more like animals LIFE in general would probably be much better. You never see animals kill for pleasure and do things what humans do. Their life is all about survival, which is eating and passing on their genes. And I don’t think it was a terrible analogy… only times you have cross breeding is when humans get involved… so you see what I mean. So you are saying that we are not animals? We Humans wish we could act like animals…
Wow!!! Seriously, the amount of movies ‘Racist Hollywood’ pumps out each year… that representation is horrible. Seriously Robert… I think you are somewhat an educated person so I will let you research more. Also Jackie Chan, Jet Li, etc… are all foreign born actors… and in reality both of them add more stereotype traits to an already Asian problem. Don’t get me wrong Kung Fu is a wonderful art… but I would love to see Asian men/women portrayed differently than the marital art master or the next mail order bride… me love you time… Seriously Robert you need to research.
Here is an assignment. Name me 10 movies where Asian males have been coupled with white females and actually have love scenes, and then Asian women coupled with white males with love scenes?
And sure Japanese men cheat, but do we believe that white men in America don’t cheat… Please!!! What is reality is that men are men. We all have dog tendencies, so don’t use this to attract Asian women. Seriously if you had to really add numbers… I think whites in general are bigger cheaters.
Look Robert, I have no problems when it comes to interracial relationships or marriages. The problem I have is when Asian women solely hate Asian men. Sure it is their choice, but don’t speak negative about your own kind. Date whoever you want, and mate with whoever you want. But when AF’s say AM are cheaters, only think about themselves , etc… We have a problem.
I have never seen tons of Asian men dating white women… I guess I need to visit your eagles nest. But being adopted and growing up in an all white small farm community, I did date white women, because that was the only thing available. White women are beautiful, intelligent, etc, etc… All women are like this. They are our other halves. Just that now I am more comfortable being with an Asian woman.. I have a beautiful Korean fiancée and it was my choice to be with her. And there is nothing wrong dating and marrying your own kind. People think we all should mix and mingle, but I also believe there is nothing wrong loving and marrying your own Kind. I hate forums stating interracial marriage is the next great invention, and selling out your race is the right thing to do. Seriously, interracial marriage and relationships will happen, but I am here to say marrying and dating your own kind is not wrong either.
Robert I have a question for you. So I am guessing you are a good old boy from North Carolina. So how did you get transplanted in Japan? I have seen a lot of white men come to Asian country and the only thing they do is bash the culture and talk down about the people, can’t stand the food they eat, can’t stand how they bump into you, can’t stand why they drive terrible, can’t stand how they do business, can’t stand how they treat foreigner, etc, etc… I am not saying you are one of them, but I wonder why they stay for 5 to 10 years or longer. I am not a genius and will never state that, but I think I have a pretty good reason why they stay in a country they hate so much. Can you explain?
I think once the Japanese women notice all the foreign husbands cheating on them, they’ll start a new trend… Bobbit style///
I apologize this is alot but I believe Robert your lucky your white has brought up some good points. Also I have to try to point out some random ignorance by other people.
Heh, Actually I do not really watch the NFL too much. Tar Heels are good I went to UNC to be able to transfer to a university here. I do not want to say which one. I feel like my privacy will be compromised if I did. I have no idea how you came up with the Japanese are the most wealthiest people on earth. How do you measure that? Per capita? United States still has more money by several thousand. Not just GDP. Japan has a little less than half the population than the united states. We still have a bigger economy by 3 fold. Then again why the hell does that matter? But to Robert your lucky your white obviously I cant say every single western foreigner here are angels. I have met some that have been here 5-10 years like you have said but stay just because it was really easy for them to find sex. They often do take advantage of thier image. Japanese women seem to not know enough about western culture to know these men are perverts.
I am not a good old boy by the way. One of my grandmothers is from Lancashire and I lived on the coast. People from Oxford go there to study the accent because it is the closest to an Elizabethan era one. Keep in mind I am not trying to sleight Japanese American men. Their as culturally American as I am. Which should be understood as a point. What I am referring to is the cheating Japanese men do here. There seems to be no real stigma against men cheating. They often come home from work partying with their boss. In the United States thanks to Christianity comparatively American men are angels in that regard. If you remember Bill Clinton cheating is thought of as a big deal. People thought it was important enough to get him removed. There was even a blog done by Tokyo Cooney about this. He was teaching English to an older woman. When he left the house her husband was on the train with him. Her husband exclaimed if he wanted to see a picture of his mistress who was 20 something. When he later returned on the next appointment he looked down and the woman said. “Did he show you a picture of his mistress”? He later asked her how she felt about that and she said “I don’t care as long as it gets him out of the house. My Japanese acquaintances here go to sex shops sometimes to illicit sex from women under 18. The minimum is 13 years if she is a prostitute. Though I am not clear how it works Japanese laws a famously very vague and can be interpreted in weird ways.
But to “Truth Speaker” you obviously have a very biased opinion. All you seem to be using is mere anecdote other than any actual evidence. Do you really think a sane person really wants to stay in a country because they want to be bullies? Also the Asian economies is far more complex than you make it out to be. China has more unemployed people in one province than the United States has in it’s entirety. It is only in growth because the government has taken the place of the consumer. Only when it runs out of capital will you really notice it’s masked unemployment problem. The Vietnamese economy has been doing much better though. The Japanese had a small recovery just in time for it to sink again. Because it’s economy is most effected by foreign consumption. People don’t have money to buy things therefore it loses money. A strong Yen at the moment is not a good thing. They do not want it in the first place and is why their in negative growth again now after it went up a tiny bit. A Weak yen means more people buys their stuff. You also fail to see the long term implications if they fail to put in a fair immigration policy. A declining population mean less people buying stuff. Now no one even if they had money will not touch it. Apparently you are like any that watches Fox news you only see what you want to hear but as I say again why does that matter?
But to Ken-Yn can you erase all these comments and maybe shut down the opportunity for people to make them please. The Topic is extremely controversial. Trolls will never be in short supply.
Again “Truth Speaker” you have to be quite stupid to regard in thinking its as an era thing. I am sorry. But as the survey said the 60 and above sample was too small to even count. The age group that seems important is the 20-30 group which is the US is at the top of the charts. This is the group that is the most “Marriageable” But if you know how to read data. The person says the US top the charts from 20-60 women in their twenties the preference for American men is 24% to the older group at 30% . 3 in 10 makes 30% wow math fun. If you account for other factors like margin of error or try to correct any discrepancies in sampling sizes of those groups. You will get a statistically insignificant difference that might even out if you test a higher pool of people in each group. Even then Teenage girls which I guess is a somewhat smaller sampling size France is number 1 then Koreans and UK and Americans are even. There’s no information on how big a gap between those numbers are, I am still absolutely sure Western men still come out on top.
Back to Robert your lucky your white and what your saying about AF talking AM’s. I am not aware of any of that. But I think your problem is you seem to have a very esoteric concept of race. Scientists will tell you the genetic differences between 1 person of one race to another is incredibly small and almost infinitely so. Your analogy were 2 different species mating. That really does not make sense. To best explain it is a joke by some comedian I forgot his name “White Chocolate and Chocolate is still chocolate”. Look up Taxonomy and I am sure you will have the information you need about that. I am not trying to make an argument against intra-racial relationships. I do not know if making any sort of argument is even possible.
im not american nor japanese, but i found debating interacial marriage statistic or wondering spessific race and gender thinking about spessific country are kind of girly, narcistic and fantasticaly waste things to do. Feed the ego of nationality superiority, “american man are a fantasies of japanese girl” hahaha, Try to hold an oppinion like “yeah there are many american marrying japanese woman, were fine” or “haha no no its only 0.01 percent” and “oh your so meaaann…” i think its funny and bit of waste then end of result its becoming weird. Beside its romanticaly absurd, yeah, how can they drop an atom bomb, event loading their troops on japanese land regarding any border and country dignity feeding the state megalomanic superiority but they end up loving each others. Making statistic and debating a waste topics like this. Ooo.. hooooaaaaaa i hope america not invading country here and there giving a bomb, toture, replacing their cultural in to yankee wild wild west culture then end up on making love statistic like this. Total waste. why dont u make statistic on how many childern that u kill on Iraq, how many chilldern that kill on Afghanistan, how many Chilldern that u kill on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, How many childern that u kill on Aztec, on Inca, on Maya, u also responsible for all the masscarce that u and urs goverment suport all over the world by paying the taxes and partipating an ellection. Count urs marine case for a rape when they stay at japan, or at Abu Gharib, Guantanamo, make an statistic over that.
hope u enlighting. World are on crisis, start a change, dont play waste.
What I am referring to is the cheating Japanese men do here. There seems to be no real stigma against men cheating. They often come home from work partying with their boss. In the United States thanks to Christianity comparatively American men are angels in that regard.
Riiight. East Asian men simply commit fewer crimes of all types. There is a stigma against murder and rape among Christians but 95% of America’s prison population is Christian. Why is that? Simple.
A lot of people are hypocrites. Whites simply have a higher infidelity rate, higher divorce rate, higher spousal murder rate, higher STD rate, higher teen pregnancy rate, higher rape rate and higher rate of committing white collar crimes… all indicative of personality traits that lend to cheating. Also, in a study of psychological traits, whites are less pro-social and compassionate than South Asians or East Asians.
These are facts you can look up at interpol, I’m not making this stuff up. Sorry, but your personal experiences are really not significant when put up against huge studies involving tens of thousands of people.
Do you really think a sane person really wants to stay in a country because they want to be bullies?
Do you really think all expats are sane?
And yes, it’s obviously an era thing. The study asks different people who grew up in different generations, it does NOT track one individual over the span of 50 years… don’t be ridiculous. There are huge differences between how my generation of East Asians and my parents generation perceives the West. Our generation is considerably less interested in the West and significantly more interested in our own peoples.
Western men top the charts? They said “besides Japanese”. The vast majority of Japanese women (over 99%) marry Japanese men and prefer it. Again, most Japanese girls have never been to either Korea nor France but they still find them interesting. Overall East Asian men top the charts overwhelmingly with a few naive girls choosing America or France.
oh my god. Why are people so stupid. look hellothere you say 95% of the american prison population is christian. Do you not think the reason why is because most people in the United States are Christian. It’s like saying all jews are evil because most of the prisoners in Israel are Jewish. Here are a nice big whoping set of numbers. Apparently I am the only one with evidence. Noone else really have anything to back up your statements.
http://drugwarfacts.org/cms/?q=node/64 Look at the statistics of prisoner population in the US. This statistics rate the incarceration rate by race from percentage of population. But here is a break down if your like hellothere and are obviously too stupid to understand numbers.
“Of the 2.3 million inmates in custody, 2.1 million were men and 208,300 were women (table 9). Black males represented the largest percentage (35.4%) of inmates held in custody, followed by white males (32.9%) and Hispanic males (17.9%).
“Over a third (33.8%) of the total male custody population was ages 20 to 29 (appendix table 10). The largest percentage of black (35.5%) and Hispanic (39.9%) males held in custody were ages 20 to 29. White males ages 35 to 44 accounted for the largest percentage (30.1%) of the white male custody population.
“The largest percentage (35.9%) of the female custody population was ages 30 to 39. Over a third of white females (35.9%) were ages 30 and 39. The largest percentage (36.8%) of Hispanic females in custody was ages 20 to 29.”
According to the US Census Bureau, the US population in 2000 was 281,421,906. Of that, 194,552,774 (69.1%) were white; 33,947,837 (12.1%) were black; and 35,305,818 (12.5%) were of Hispanic origin. Additionally, 2,068,883 (0.7%) were Native American, and 10,123,169 (3.8%) were Asian.
White or western men in the US still consist of about 70% of the US population yet are 33% of the prison population Blacks are almost 13 percent of the entire US populat yet are about 35% of the prison population. You would assume the population majority would be in prison. Apparently that is not the case. Second you are talking about, Higher divorce rates amd higher infidelity rates. 1 if you know anything about japanese culture marriage is less of a union between 2 people in love and more of a business contract. about 15 percent of marriages in japan are still arranged. Lower divorce rates in Japan are due to factors like for example. A woman is less likely to divorce her husband because there is no such thing as alimony or things of that sort. In a divorce the only thing the woman gets are the children which happens about 96% of the time. Only recently did the japanese government allow divorced wives to have a small portion of her x Husbands pension. This is still a very small amount. If the woman asked for a divorce you have a woman that now has to live in poverty that has a mouth to feed knowing she would have to get a job to support him/her. Because of sexism she only has real access to low sevretarial jobs and because of her sex she is often cut off from climbing to corporate ladder. Because of that Women put up with a japanese mans infidelity. It usally only really end in divorce in serious cases.
Here is also another wonderful fact about the STD rate in japan. http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/jun/05060610.html
Unlike the rest of the rate in the developed world Japan has an increasing rate of aids that have been doubling every 4 years. For everyon else it has been decreasing.
Also when I stated the statistic about the difference between 20 year old age group to the 60. The Age groups are seperated as 20-30, 30-40, 40-50, 50-60. the 20-30 age group stated that the women preferred to marry American men by 24%. That is just American men. If you combine all western men it’s still much higher than those from other asian countries. My Statement was the poster made the observation that the ones that showed prefferance towards american men increased when you added the older age groups. My observation was the difference between the increase was only 6%. If you look at other studies some age groups responded more than others. So if you counted things like Margin of error and you expanded the number of people asked in each age group to be evenm the difference would either even out or become statistically insignificant.
It would be erroneous to try and compare races by things like white collar crimes and rape rates. If you spent anytime on a train in Tokyo and notice the chikan problem things like sexual assault and rape are heavily underreported in asia. Marital rape is seen as a logical absurdity there. Also White collar crime rates are probably higher because the west has companies that you can pull that crap off. You can’t steal from a company if you dont work in a company. The west has more businesses ergo more westerners are in a position to steal. You cannot rob a bank unless you are in one. You also cannot site any real study that involves pychological traits. Certain actions are percieved differently in each culture. These are often interpreted by westerners often with very little experience. For example, in japanese culture diverting your eyes from a speaker is a sign of humbling yourself. A Westerner would see that as them being a coward or if a person is talking to them with thier eyes averted is often viewed as if they are lying.
Also japanese men cheating you have to look at the culture in general. Men do not think paying a prostitute for sex is considered cheating. Of course the women see it as cheating. The men think well it’s only cheating if they love another woman. Also japanese men do not have time to be intimate with thier wives. Men tend to come back home so late at night it is normal that he has a seperate room from his wife. If you know about the corporate culture there. After work a man climbs the corporate ladder not by performance but often by kissing thier bosses ass. Companies have huge expense accounts for a boss to party most nights of the week. You know “team building excercises”. This often has to do with being in hostess clubs and so many sexual outlets that are unheard of in the West. Prostitution is highly illegal almost throughout the West. Legalized prostitution is only in very few parts in the western world. Pornography is also much more regulated in the west. Sometimes only being able to purchase pornography only untill your 21. Tell me can you go to a game store in the west and buy a rape simulator for your wii. Also underage “Compensated dating” is common. It’s where an older male either gives cash or gifts to someone as young as 14 for sex. In the West all you really have are strip clubs and even then laws sorrounding them are almost completly rediculous.
my point is if you were asking if east asians cheat the answer is often skewed because they have a different deffinition of what cheating is. Though japanese women tend to agree the western Ideal of being faithful to you wife, meaning having sex only with her is ideal.
Again japanese women marry japanese men more often because japan is about 98.4% japanese. Westerners only make a fraction of a fraction of the population there. Unless you think a western man can by married to a japanese woman without knowing thier existance by some sort of quantum entanglement. I mean really why do some people have to be so stupid. I am sorry I am a little angry right now I feel like I am talking to children. Also a statement like japanese women 99% of the time prefer japanese men that’s absurd. Of course you are right the question the person above stated other than japanese men. It does not answer the question whether they prefer one or the other. Only from my observations they seem to not prefer anyone as long they love them and give them the respect they deserve. But to hellothere really. Use logic once in a while. I am not spell or grammar checking this one. I wrote too much but I am compelled to write when someone says stupid stuff.
PLEASE Ken Y-N SHUT THIS DOWN. Prevent people from leaving comments and delete all the ones made so far. Most people that look up these statistics are often racist that metnally delute thier world view and would say anything to add comfort to thier racism.
WOW, interesting to read and I am still wondering why Japanese men/Asian men do not seem to date white women in the U.S. I am middle aged, very attracted to Japanese men AND their culture. It does seem to be an oddity here…unheard of, don’t get it.
Robert… what is wrong with you man. Dude, look at the title of this article, “Japanese women dream of America,” To me that is racist. Why we (American’s) always spectulating that everyone wants to come to America… so what they do surveys and find that out of 5000 plus Japanese women majority wants to live in the USA. So what! If you are going to publish something like this on the web of course you are going to get rebuttals… What did you expect. Imagine if it states “All White women in American dream of Japan,’ you are going to get arguements no matter what. Just deal with it and stop posting. As stated before, “Just live the dream.” And stop asking Ken Y-N to shut down this site…. why would he shut this down if he is the owner. He is getting a lot of hits.