Japanese women dream of the USA

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representitives of countries Japanese want to marry intoDIMSDRIVE performed internet-based research involving 5,274 people in September of last year to find out which country’s citizens would people most want to marry. It is not stated whether or not the people interviewed were single or not.

The Asia versus the West split is quite noticeable in the men, but really striking amongst the women. I previously translated statistics regarding international marriages in Japan that shows that the ideals being expressed here do not seem to be realised.

On a slight tangent, I watched the last episode of an NHK English learning program which features an English-speaking Western blonde angel that prods a clueless office worker along the path to success at her job getting a date with her transferred from New York colleague, the ideal tall, muscular, tanned, well-coiffured white executive. The angel’s job was done because the glaikit Misaki finally pulled her man.

Research results

Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (Sample size=5,274, free answer)

Rank   Votes
1 USA 1,144
2 Korea 505
3 UK 442
4 Italy 370
5 France 344
6 Australia 218
7 Germany 203
8 China 197
9 Canada 150
10 Russia 120

Q: Other than Japanese, which country’s people do you think would be good to have as a partner (husband or wife)? (By sex, free answer)

Rank Male
N=2,468
Votes Rank Female
N=2,806
Votes
1 USA 368 1 USA 776
2 Korea 297 2 UK 347
3 China 174 3 Italy 278
4 France 134 4 France 210
5 Russia 117 5 Korea 208
6 Thailand 99 6 Australia 145
7 UK 95 7 Germany 131
8 Italy 92 8 Canada 99
9= Taiwan 73 9 Switzerland 47
9= Australia 73 10 Spain 34

First, looking at the East-West split – or more accurately, perhaps, the caucasian-Asian split (I’m not aware of any black Western role-models in Japan) we see that for men, 36% of the total votes were for Western wives versus 26% for Asian women, favouring the West (I’m including Russia, with Maria Sharapova as the popular image of the country) by just over a third. However for women there is a marked difference; about 74% in total choose the West (over 40% for the USA alone) versus a mere 7.4% for the East, a massive ten to one vote for Europe and the USA.

Next, looking at the detailed age breakdown, it’s only in the teenage girls group that the USA fails to top the charts, losing out to France and Korea, and equal with the UK. For men in their twenties, American women are preferred over the second-placed Korean women by almost 60%, and the Chinese are back in fifth, gaining just over a third of the number of votes of the USA. However, the older men get, the stronger the charms of the Asian neighbours become, with the gap at its smallest being just a mere three votes. Similarly, for men in their forties and over, Chinese women cut the gap from a third to about a half of the USA score.

For women, as they get older (ignoring the over sixty bracket which has a very small sample size, so may be rather inaccurate) the attraction to American men only get stronger; in their twenties, Americans get just under a quarter of the vote, but by their fifties, it surpasses three in ten. Despite the charms of the disturbingly Harry Potter-like Bae Yong Joon Korean men do not seem to be particularly favoured by the middle-aged demographic.

These two main trends noted above are perhaps reflections on Japanese society as much as on foreign stereotypes. The younger men hold images of themselves as charming the sophisticated Western woman, but as they age (and visit dodgy hostess bars…) they come to realise that perhaps only Asian women could accept their typical Japanese behaviour. For women, after having been around Japanese men for many, many years, they too may come to realise that the Western stereotypes of politeness and chivalry are the only things that could satisty them in marriage.

Bonus points if you can name the people pictured…

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  1. me said,
    May 19, 2009 @ 01:44

    are you kidding? normal japanese women aren’t interested in marrying foreigners. some may be interested in parading them around town or using their money, but very few would consider marriage with one. the difference in attitudes has to do with the era they grew up in, not how long they’ve been acclimated to their own kind. young japanese are becoming less and less interested in things not japanese, whereas it’s natural older japanese women see western men in a better light because they lived through the aftermath of the war when japan was poor and white men had all the money. duh.

    • JAS said,
      December 14, 2009 @ 13:46

      Your full of BULL SHIT!!!!!!

      Japanese women will marry and date Caucasian men any day any time anywhere, my wife is Japanese and the only men she likes for relationships and marriages are Caucasian men.

      Japanese women are also the prettiest and sexiest women on earth, Yoko I love you so much sweetheart!!!!

  2. hatamoto said,
    May 27, 2009 @ 17:43

    gonna have to respectfully disagree with me on this one. been living in Japan for a while now. most of the evidence that almost all of my young western male acquaintances here have encountered seems to contradict what you’re saying. 1. ALT’s don’t really have any money. 2. i agree with you about them sometimes being paradeg around town. 3. lots of marriageable-aged women looking to settle down with western guys in this country, maybe it’s the same back in the US too I’m not sure, but guys who weren’t so popular back home have an easier time finding gfs here.

    i’m not gonna get into the “why” of it because that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms.

  3. Mike said,
    July 5, 2009 @ 14:04

    Yes, I agree with Hatamoto. The first poster “me”, has no idea what he is talking about. He sounds like a jealous Japanese mad because white men get all of his women.

    Most Japanese women love and are completly fascinated with American men. The would rather date an American man than one or their own anyday. And the “why” like Hatamoto said, well, I’ll let him explain that. LOL!

  4. a Japanese woman said,
    July 11, 2009 @ 17:21

    Perhaps, any comments in women’s life here is up to her value of life. If there is any connection between how Japanese women and American man, they only can say why they seek the relatinship or marriage. Any stereo typed mind suppose to be out of this type of conversation. The purpose of those encounter would be many, not only for one reason. As I lived in America for close to 16 years and I have a strong connection to both countries, there are many Japanese women who live there without any of desire but because their husbands happned to be American. I am not sure those today’s Japanese women truely think that America is the purpose of their marriage or just for money rather than the man she loves? If money is the reason, I don’t know because usually regular American men are very humble and conservative in spendings. Over all, we are not rich in general. I feel that Japanese men have more money in general. and women even more. ha ha. Is there anyone who can explain what is happening in Japan and Japanese women now? I want to ask men now for this answer… hope he agrees with me why we do go for interracial marriage? I think it is strictly a choice of the individuals, rather than a trend or social pressure.. It would be sad to see today’s women in Japan just follow the stereotypes and to get together with another stereotyped American men. I think both women and men are usually more careful for the decision in relationship. what do you think?

  5. Robert said,
    July 19, 2009 @ 18:50

    I am an american man. Living here I can see why they think we are quite conservative with money. Me my family is a bit wealthy I do have quite a bit of money to spend. One there is a difference in dating culture not many japanese women know about. When a man asks if he wants to pay for that. A Japanese woman says no. American men just assume that not only is she not interested in dating so were just friends then things get split. When they say no thanks they are usually waiting for you to ask a second time just to know if have a legitamate interest in being with her or your just a gentleman. English is a germanic language. To linguists it is also a language of contract and it evolved around western thought. It is called a language of contract because it has one of the most largest vocabularies in the world and a complex grammar system to let the person you are speaking know exactly what you want and your desires. So english speakers are famous for being very direct with what we want. You ask a japanese woman you want to go out with her she will turn you down. Though many times she seems to want you to continue to ask her out to gauge your interest in her. This is very unusual in the west. Western women have a saying “No means no”. If a woman says she is not interested we think it means exactley that. So if a woman says ,ok I can pay for myself we assume her thought is very clear and her intentions are not as vague as japanese culture seems to be to maintain politeness or to gauge feelings. American men and western men in general are raised to pay and are happy to alleviate a womans burden. Also I am always called stingy with money cause I wont buy my girlfriend a 200,000 yen purse when she already has 3. Western men do not usually want to pay because it seems so frivolous. Japanese women spend half of the money a month a western woman spends a year on clothes on average. We do not get the fascination with clothes. Suggest seemingly expensive vacations we are all for it and are happy to pay even more than japanese men. There is just a difference in what our cultures value. In essence japanese women are no different than anyone else. If you know how to approach them and know thier culture and understand what they mean. You will have the same chances anywhere else. Just do not go out with the women that ask you out. I find thier intentions are usually less than virtuous. Sometimes they are but I do not like to take risks.

  6. Robert said,
    July 19, 2009 @ 19:14

    Oh by the way learn the language. If you don’t usually they won’t bother . If you are fluent your good. But if your not fluent it isn’t unusal for the women to run away to get out of a sticky language barrier situation. Also really its not fair to them if you dont make an attempt to understand thier culture. If you want to get married it should be mandatory to be fluent. Relationships do not work out if you do not do that. I do not find women go head over heals over a particular nationality or race. It is the same as it is in the west some people have preferances to some others and some don’t. I have problems with too many men coming here who think they can get lucky and thier odds are so much higher than back home. If you do not even know the language or either a Japanese girl plays you (wow, thier human they like sex too.), you are not going to come home with stories of conquest. There is some mystery to you. You are exotic and interesting. That only seems to be your only advantage. It is basicaly like dating the swedish exchange student. No you are not some god to these women. Your race and nationality will make it easier for a woman to open the door in a relationship but it wont get you past the Threshhold. The rest is hardwork. It seems dating these women the bar does seem very high for you. So it is not easy and requires alot of commitment. Also if your fat lose some weight then come here. Also workout and be on your best behaviour. There is not too many of us here so like many based on that situation they judge us based on the group not the individual. That will change in time but seriously do not ruin what others have done before you.

    • nampa said,
      March 13, 2011 @ 07:48

      People are ignoring the elephant in the room, foreign women, including Japanese, are just more accomodating. There is less whining, complaining, etc. If you are a caring, good-looking, fun guy, that’s often enough. They aren’t spoiled. That there is such a response to a stupid article like this (If you look closely, the vast majority of marriages to foreigners are Japanese male: foreign female.) reflects how our culture view female sexuality compared to men (gold: crap) and the anger against white men that date outside their race (That money’s for a white woman’s alimony, stupid!)
      P.S. Last time I was in Japan, it was all about being black and a rapper. Funny, no one gets angry against black men because they are getting a break. This whole anti-white male thing is driven by white women.

  7. a Japanese woman said,
    July 27, 2009 @ 23:52

    Robert made a good point, but still don’t know if you think you want Japanese woman to learn more of American men, then I am not really sure of those intimacy between both men and women. We both learn the differences. I don’t know why those money issue goes on top in marriage or relationship. For example, my man I love dearly and I don’t really use money to do anything, we appreciate our time to be together. What we give or recieve is always appreciated. It is not just a things we buy to exchange. I think Robert’s comment of “hard work” makes real sense to me. I am glad that you make the point here. one objection would be, if you say Japanese women spend a lot of money for clothing. Well I am Japanese and I see some women are wisely use their money for family rather than clothing. Now economy is down everywhere, and it is nice to see some people have some money to spend for their laxuary, but most of us are getting more serious about spendings. Love, money and intimacy, marriage, family and life to share. Between American men and Japanese women need more of talking with the same sharing language for sure. Once we know how we are, it is not only cultural difference. For example, my current BF of course have his own image of me as a Japanese, but he thinks he cannot see me behaving as he thought I would to be a Japanese woman. Well I am not sure actually what Japanese women do or behave traditionally or with following their culture, I am me and I am a real Japanese woman here. As I have heared many opinions from people who pay attention to our cultural difference and behavior, some people are very good to fill in the gap through communication. Language is important for sure, and talking directly is a good advice to communicate well to American man, but does it kill Japanese women’s common sense to approach to American men? I think when Japanese women go out with you, then she is interested for sure. My honest opinion, Japanese women maynot go out at all with you if she is not interested. Rbert is too direct for me, lol, but hey I think good to talk here. Thank you.

  8. a Japanese woman said,
    July 27, 2009 @ 23:54

    oh by the way, my English is not perfect I hope you can read ok to get the meanings of my comment. sorry I am having fun here….

  9. Robert said,
    August 7, 2009 @ 03:26

    Thanks Japanese woman. When I am with my japanese girlfriend I am less direct I do like the Japanese style in prefering actions over words. The relationship between the two is very hardwork. But like all relationships the more work you put into it the more reward you get out of it. I lived in a very diverse part of america. I see alot of japanese yonsei and grew up around them and in my head the best way to describe dating them is, I do not notice they are japanese. Of course they are, they look different but it was never an issue of attraction. The best way to describe it is I feel the exact same way dating a japanese woman as I do with a white woman. I agree she should learn my language and culture too. I emphasized and was more direct in my message to other american men, as it seems they are the ones who talk about it are not willing to make an effort to understand thier behaviour. Japanese women will work extremely hard to understand them and are willing to do what is nesscessary so I am not concerned about them. This thought comes from Americans believing it is racist to believe people are no different from each other. Well for japanese that is true in a way. Japanese all have the same desires, likes and dislikes are similar and are no different than anyone else. How they achieve those desires are completely different. The journey is different but the destination is the same, if that makes sense. When it did come to spending on clothes of course not all women are the same and they should never be generalized. There always seem to some wierd things between the 2 cultures in generalizing the 2 groups. I am 6 feet tall and blonde hair and blue eyes I am always put into a group and is hard to sometimes to penetrate at a more human level. Because of these features I am either liked very much or hated. But if japanese women are reading this the only thing I can say that is the most important and biggest difference between the 2 relationships is honne and tattamae. Japanese believe this concept does not exist in the west but it does very much so. In english it translates into more closely as “persona and true self”. Honne and tattamae exist in all cultures in one form or another. In western relationships especially really close ones all of that is gone. Men never naturally talk about thier problems. Western men even more so than japanese men. In western culture a man is considered strong (by western women anyway) if he tells his wife or a close girlfriend his problems. If he feels sad he will tell you. If he cries in your presence and does not lie about it, it means he trusts and loves you extremly deeply.Though western men cry just as much as japanese men we seem to be better at hiding it. In public among other people he is far more likely to control his emotions than japanese men, But because western couples in private talk about what makes them sad and are honest about how they feel the relationships are a bit different. This is usually why statistically western men are more faithfull in comparison to men in japan and asia. Only in english speaking contries though. In France or Italy a therapist might suggest to a man who is having a rough marriage to find romance with another woman and have an affair while you are still married. In non-english speaking western countries sometimes it is normal for men and women to have 1, 2 or even 3 lovers. Like the French president who left his wife for one of his lovers. In American society and if a famous person cheats on his wife he is reviled and demonized by the public. If an american politician did it often he is shamed by the public and has to leave office because of public outrage. Bill Clinton did not leave but the people felt him cheating on his wife was important enough try and remove him from office. Remember the more personal things you tell him and he tells you the greater a man feels like he is betraying you if he even thinks of another woman. Alot of western women say yeah the men do cheat sometimes but look at the fact there is no such thing as a love hotel in the west. Or host or hostess clubs. Pornography is heavily regulated to be kept away from people under 18 years old and even 21 in some states. There is no such thing as a hotel that charges by the hour in the west. There are some but the people who run the hotel do not tell anyone or else people who are staying the night will think the sheets are not clean and will not stay there. Remember what you call “Playboys” do not really go into relationships and only think about being married untill they are much older. Also Japanese women are thought as “easy” because they are willing to have sex much sooner than western women. This is because in the west and because of christianity sex is considered to be far more sacred than in japan. Christianity tells them they should only have sex untill the 2 people are married. It is suppose to represent being in love. That is why in english when 2 people are having sex it is sometimes called “Making Love”. Of course most westerners do not wait untill they are married anymore but wait a lot longer than japanese couples. If a man wants to try to have sex and you have only met recently just say no. You have to say it clearly, NO! You have to be direct about it. if he understands he came on too soon he will say he is sorry and leave. A man who does that is a good one to have. He can grow to love and respect you and this indicates he thinks of you as an equal which is part of western society. Sorry there is a lot more I can write but that is the most important thing to know. Of course not all men are like this and you should never put them all in one group but this is a good idea of many men especially the ones japanese girls seem to like. Also not everyone in america is tall and have blonde hair and blue eyes. There was only me and 10 other kids in my high school of 700 with both blonde hair and blue eyes. Yes western men do say I love you till the day we die, we do want to help raise children. Westerners only marry people we are in love with. Parents do not arrange any marriages. If you wish to live in Japan after marriage we are more than willing to do that. also for those like me who are going to school in Japan, are also likely to take your family name. There are some families that disapprove of a marriage till they found out the man had no problem taking thier family name when they only had daughters. Not only did they approve but were overjoyed. Also japanese families are not as opposed as you may think though that requires even more explanation.

  10. August 8, 2009 @ 13:43

    do you tyhink japanese women are not smart think agaain

  11. smith said,
    August 9, 2009 @ 17:26

    My friend is an American guy and found out that his Japanese wife – Junko Muto of Tokyo – is already married to another guy – She never got divorced from her first husband!!!!

    My friend met her and married her in Japan and had registered with the local government office as required in Japan. However, the Japanese wife as it turned out had been married to another man in the US. This US marriage was a legally recognized marriage in Japan, consequently, according to Japanese law, she was guilty of a crime, bigamy.

    Eventually the American guy had to enagage legal help, which took an incredible amount of time and money that he had to pay to get the mess sorted out. He had to engage both US and Japanese legal counsel and ended up in Japanese family court.

    My friend was uncharacteristically naive and was taken advantage by this girl looking to meet a well off foriegn guy. The word is that this Japanese woman is back out looking for the next guy, so please BE CAREFUL!

  12. Robert said,
    August 10, 2009 @ 00:28

    No japanese women are not stupid. Then to Smith I think you might be trying to be too inclusive about japanese women. One I do not know about this particular woman or her specific situation to render an opinion. Has she seen her husband in the US for awhile? Do you think they might have been seperated for a good amount of time based on less than amicable terms. The fact her former husband is in the US and hard to find do you think it would have been rather difficult to get a divorce if she wanted it? Even if this womans intentions were wicked did you honestly believe all japanese women were good and this was not possible. American women are not 100 percent good either and are just as capable of doing something just as horrible. Also for japanese men who are reading. Western women think your attractive too I think in a japanese mans head they feel under attack untill they know the fact that to western women you are just as interesting and exotic as western men are to japanese women. My comment and advice about sex was important because in japanese culture sex seems to be more entertainment than intimate as it is in western culture. The most important thing you can take from anything based on what smith said is Japanese women are just as capable as any other woman to do emotional harm. Just be on guard and never ever when it comes to marriage to any woman take it lightly.

  13. bob said,
    August 11, 2009 @ 16:43

    So being a foreighnor is maybe enteresting for a japanese women? im 13 lol

  14. Robert said,
    August 12, 2009 @ 02:01

    It is interesting. Its depth is of how interesting is very overstated though. Think of it this way. Would think an enlish woman is charming because her accent it enchanting. When you look at it as a whole The interest is no different than it is anywhere else in the world. The western world is of course popular probably because we have developed societies. America in particular just because the relationship between the US and japan has been extremly amicable ever since the end of the war. The US has always had a clase relationship with the country it is not surprising. I do know in Japan alot of Africans are famous for being able to ask women out by lying and saying they are from New York. Black guys are popular too for some but really does come nowhere close to a westerner that is patient enough to be fluent in japanese. Then even then we are usually more popular because our common culture is interesting. The idea of a monogamous and chivalrous western husband is an appealing prospect. Sadly not all westerners there fit the profile. Then again doing so fits preople into a stereotype. Remember when a woman says “American” They are usually think of a tall blonde haired blue eyed person mucular with a broad chest. But If asian guys or specificaly japanese guys you should know american women think you are attractive too. Its just you don’t really approach them very well. Alot of american women think japanese guys can be cute.

  15. s. said,
    August 16, 2009 @ 20:22

    no doubt there are tons of japanese women who go after american men, but they are in the minority (and let’s not forget that they tend to be older/ugly/social outcasts). everyone here can deny it all they like, but there are plenty of american men in japan who willingly admit this. the japan of today is not the japan of the 80s and 90s. it is not easy for most guys to get girlfriends anymore– it gets harder and harder every year with the saturation of the foreign male market. virtually every foreign male i know complains of this and how japanese women are not as easy as in the stories. so i don’t know which japan you guys live in, but it’s not the same as the one in which i currently reside.

  16. Robert said,
    August 17, 2009 @ 16:01

    What the hell do you mean. What do you mean by easy? Generally if you are attractive you really have no problem theres more of a normalcy to it now. Remember this study is just from 3 years ago none of this really changed since then. Some people have though you could have anyone you want but that is not the case now. You do have to be attractive Generaly ugly foreigners are able to get ugly japanese girls while more attractive ones get more attractive girls. Most studies have shown that Japanese women that absolutly will not date a foreigner is in the minority. Problem is Idiots dont know where and when to ask women out which is extremly important. If you know the protocols generaly they will pick you on your own merits. What S. has said is almost completly absurd. If you spent more time actually studying the culture and actually learn how to interact with them your good. Again as I said before if you know the language your chances increase exponentialy. Just dont expect to get a knockout if your fat or ugly.

  17. gao bo hong said,
    August 27, 2009 @ 05:10

    Just my opinion, but I think it is because the couple fell in the love…

  18. Mikale said,
    August 30, 2009 @ 13:22

    Well said, gao bo hong. Some people overthink this issue in the context of Japan, when it is a global phenomenon. Females of almost every nationality are more “outgoing” in their interracial pairing preferences than males (search “miscegenation”). The sociological data has borne this out though countless studies.

    Domestic men are almost always ‘offended’ by the notion and feel protectionist. It is natural, seeing as how women used to be part of the “bounties of war” and having your women taken by foreign men is widely felt as shameful. People of many countries mix freely now even if the idea used to be repugnant.

    It might feel good to say “foreigners only get the ugly/old/stupid ones” and “that’s not normal” but it’s quite untrue and quite normal. All kinds of women and men meet all kinds of women and men of all kinds :D There is a black + asian lesbian couple somewhere and their love is just as valid as anyone’s.

  19. Robert said,
    September 1, 2009 @ 17:23

    This is true. In actuality being here my male japanese friends make fun of my because I would think anyone is beautiful. The standard of beauty is extremly different. I had some female friends get extremly angry to see themselves being passed over by “busu”. What might be attractive in Japanese society could be extremly ugly to you. What alot of us call The snaggle tooth they call Yaeba and is cute but is attractive about 15% of the time to us. Some also have what we call “chicken legs” that are extemly thin and they walk around like thier crippled or something. Also westerners see an attractive face if it’s symmetrical. That was the entire basis of greek statue art but there’s is a youthful appearance. If you look younger for your age your extremly attractive. So sometimes westerners go on dates with what they think are complete knockouts but thier society thinks they are ugly. But yes from my conversations with several japanese women I know they really do not care what race you are as long as you love them and do not cheat. You also have some nationalist japanese who troll these kinds of places and say no this is rare and only ugly women and social outcasts do it. When in fact surveys like this show’s that women are really open to the idea as long as you fit thier idea of an ideal mate. I do know alot of japanese women and have read on forums they like american men because they believe they are monogamous. Compared to some japanese guys I know as a whole we are hermits. Of course the youth are changing. Alot of the japanese friends I know 25 and under ask me for advice for to dates with american girls. You also see more half or quarter caucasian/japanese models in fashion magazines than “pure” japanese models. So it is accepted in society as a whole but of course it is new you always have your fringe groups.

  20. Gogo said,
    September 6, 2009 @ 13:05

    I do have to say from a statistical point of view that whenever there is a poll done, you have know its accuracy is completely dependent on how you choose your population and the general psychological state of this population. In general those in a race/society (whether American or Japanese) whom decides to stay within their own country has subtly different psychological state than those that makes a conscious decision to leave for another country. So is for those women in either culture looking for get married to a foreigner different from those that decide to protect their own culture.

    Those that leaves for another country have a general psychological state that their culture is better for the opposite sex. Those that are looking to marry a foreigner is looking forward to get out of his/her culture. But for the above 2 groups, their psychological state is that “grass is greener on the other side”. They are bound for disappointment as what you gain on one side get back to bite you on the other side. Japanese men seemingly pushy to Japanese women because their men is able to protect their own culture and their men are able to uphold that responsibility. America is itself not a racially homogeneous nation since creation and men do not have as much a responsibility in protecting their own culture as other nations (for example, compare with Japan, Korea, Russia or China), ending in exactly the social phenomenon problems we see today in the US: reverse racial discrimination, feminists women bully their own men into baby-boy psychology.

    I don’t need to warn anyone that really desperate men whom travel abroad may be willing to bent their manhood or pride just to get married, but that really put those men in vulnerable position for exploitation. If you want to marry and accept your wife’s culture then why would you use your own culture as a basis for your pride? Furthermore you should know your foreign wife whom married you have a psychological state of wanting to leave her own culture therefore will treat you differently than how her treats men of her own culture. The above discussions focuses on disillusion of Japanese culture where love hotel exists and some men/women do not mind having more than one partners. But for those that think too higher of American culture you need to be in constant contact with US to know what exactly is going on. Yes, problems in both cultures can be due to minority/social_outcasts, but ignoring these problems do not make one’s argument valid. If you don’t know who Jerry Springer is, nor of his show, then you don’t really have a right in arguing about “monogamous and chivalrous” westerners. Moreover the exact same phrase is how feminists women uses to “bully their own men into baby-boy psychology”.

    It gets down to how honest you want to be with yourselves. List what you can offer and what you want to get for repayment and accept you are throwing your culture away. Then either go out and search for a potential wife (while be careful not to sound nor act desperate), or fight to get your own culture the way you wanted. Finally, for those that decide to go out and search for a potential wife, be advised the main reason you are able to get a ‘better’ wife in some ‘nation’, is because there are ‘those’ that fights day and night to protect their own culture from your own culture, even though you made a conscious decision to ridicule on them.

  21. DerekJ said,
    September 7, 2009 @ 02:32

    Robert,

    From your August 12th statement, “Black guys are popular too for some but really does come nowhere close to a westerner that is patient enough to be fluent in japanese” are you really implying that black guys are not patient enough to learn the language? If so, that is just offensively incorrect. I agree with a lot of what you have been saying but that one part is just wrong, if I understood it as it appears.

    DerekJ

  22. Anonymous said,
    September 7, 2009 @ 08:47

    What do Japanese guys feel about Asian American females that are not Japanese?

  23. 1LTLos said,
    September 8, 2009 @ 14:52

    Robert talks and writes far too much. Both he and, with all due respects to Japanese Woman, might have missed the point entirely about relationships in general. Moreover, the specifics exchanged in this fellows long monologue would not last one tall Starbucks Latte. I have been very fortunate to meet, to come to know and become involved with three wonderful Japanese women – Osaka, Yokohama and Tokyo respectively. Two of these women earned very little money while the third owns the #13th top Auditing Firm in the world! Yes, Japanese women do not suffer from being financially challenged. Japanese women have made measurable social and monetary advances for themselves. Plus they are the most exotically beautiful women on the planet! Regardless that some -not all – Japanese.have tremendous earning potential, relationships are first, driven by human nature and in our contemporary world still affairs regarding our hearts — It is ones maturity, loyalty, capacity to give and also recieve love, to be a romantic person and to make his Japanese woman very happy and content through the means that his demeanor, humor, ingenuity, innovativeness and determination to bestow warmth, love, passion, excitement, interest, happiness a sense of mutual fufillment and imbue your lovers heart with a strong sense of loving unity, that the relationship is always number 1 priority, and that hopes dreams, desires and schemes designed while sitting pool-side or fireside or pillow-talking together are rooted and grounded in genuine mature love for each other and that these dreams will have a real future! Then the cultural, language, travels to Japan -which I love so much – cuisine and tradition exchange can begin but remain a unique facet of our international love and relationship. You cant just “Want” to marry a Japanese woman, you must be an emotionally very strong person. And very understanding and capable of speaking hearing thinking in another language — its about two hearts. $$$ is important but not worth half the weight the above experience brings to a relationship. And by relationship, I mean for a life-time! No Exits! I hope one ay my Japanese is as good as ‘A Japanese Woman’s” English is – I respect that. Arigato.

  24. Robert said,
    September 11, 2009 @ 21:14

    No I do not mean that as a slight to black men. The black men I know here are extremly smart well atleast the american ones. They seem to be the quickest to become fluent in the language. The problem is most of the depictions of them are the bone through the nose tribal types you see in some childrens books like “little sambo” one was called. Also advertising used blonde haired and blue eyed males in order to get people to learn english. You often see them in commercial with really bad american accents. But for the most part the black guys I know are married to japanese women. They are more of an unknown which I think I should have said, though rap has become very popular. My point is not many in comparison search for black men specificaly but in real numbers there is a healthy amount. I should have elaborated more the african-american guys here are smart but western males have been depicted as handsome tall and faithful husbands for the past 150 years.
    I have to disagree with gogo. The vast majority of women I have met, really would like being in bicultural relationships but have no intention of leaving japan. They would be with only if you intend to stay in the country for the rest of your life. That’s why alot of expatriots are staying. In actuality dating here is like it is in any other country. Also jerry springer and those shows use actors. They go out to agents and recruit actors to pretend to do stupid stuff. In comparison to japanese men though were regular Mr.Cleavers. Also marriage in japanese society mean most of the time the japanese man gets a mistress.
    To anonymous if you are young and your boyfriend who would be japanese it would not matter too much. Of course I am in a university the people are different but most of the guys I am friends with and no are just like any other guy. They can look at any girl or nationality and if shes cute shes cute. Just remember culturaly men go out and cheat and sometimes quite often and is sometimes cultural excepted as long as he can keep it secret from you. Though the younger generation is different there is still alot of that around.

  25. yuki said,
    September 13, 2009 @ 15:10

    This poll is very intesting. But in reality how many western( white or black) and japanese marriages are there? Not many. In % of all marriages there, more like 0.01% Lol

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